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;) رسالة [email protected] في 17 مار, 2014 م 12:36: > Today's Topic Summary > > Group: http://groups.google.com/group/openegypt/topics > > * [Important] MCIT strategy <#group_thread_0> [7 Updates] > > [Important] MCIT strategy > <http://groups.google.com/group/openegypt/t/f435511e3b8fd8ee> > > Ahmed Mekkawy <[email protected]> Mar 16 07:14PM > > Hello everybody > > The MCIT strategy was announced today. I would like everybody here > to read > it and give us feedback, as the community must have a say in this issue. > > English: > http://www.mcit.gov.eg/Media_Center/Press_Room/Press_Releases/2967 > > Arabic: > http://www.mcit.gov.eg/Ar/Media_Center/Press_Room/Press_Releases/2967 > > > Please note that the press release is worse than the strategy > itself, but > both are important. > > Regards, > ---- > Ahmed Mekkawy > CTO | Founder > [email protected] > [email protected] > > Spirula Systems > www.SpirulaSystems.com > > > > Ahmed Koraiem <[email protected]> Mar 16 11:17PM +0200 > > Is that the 3rd consecutive strategy in 3 consecutive years? These > guys are > doing a marvelous job :/ > > > On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 9:14 PM, Ahmed Mekkawy < > > > > Ahmed Koraiem <[email protected]> Mar 16 11:23PM +0200 > > Oh you meant the FOSS Strategy, that's well. > > > > > > Tarek Amr <[email protected]> Mar 17 01:24AM +0200 > > I will go through the bits and pieces that grabbed my attention in the > press release and add my comments underneath them > > "The Ministry of Communications and Information Technology (MCIT) > showcased > the FOSS strategy main features during Cairo ICT" > I can see here that in addition to the general interest in the ministry > now, there supposed to be members who are aware of the topic enough to > draft a strategy and present it in the ICT. > Can we get the names of those who presented the strategy in the ICT? > I will > try to dig in the Strategy document for more names? Those can be our key > contacts for now. > > "The Center has already started to design and implement FOSS training > programs in the field of cloud computing and mobile applications in > cooperation with the Technology Innovation and Entrepreneurship Center > (TIEC)". > Do We have something to offer here? Can OpenEgypt offer trainings to > them? > What topics should we focus on? What is the gap we need to cover here? > Remember the the likes of IBM and Cisco will probably jump in > wearing their > FOSS hats to offer something here. > > Now let me have a quick look at the Strategy Document. > > "2.2 Improve Efficiency and Transparency of the Public Sector" > This can serve as a gate to Open Source Software as well as Open > Government > Data. For example, CKAN is a FOSS software that is used by government to > release their public data. We need to present that to them. > > Section 5, "High-LevelAction Plan", is a good summary for what are their > plans. Thus, let me list the following points/opportunities. > > > - They need to train governmental entities and the public as well. > Accordingly, they will be looking for training partners. Open Egypt can > work here as a consultant, or to offer trainings. I am eager to know > your > feedback about this. > - They will on one hand advocate FOSS to SME's, but on the other hand > the government will also act as purchaser of FOSS. Can we prepare a > list of > companies working in developing and customizing FOSS in Egypt? > - We also need to have a list of key persons in the ministry and their > roles within this strategy. > - They said they will revise current ICT policies and related law > articles relevant to FOSS adoption. What can be our input here? > > > Finally, I can see that Open Egypt can act here as either consultant or > service provider, however I personally prefer the former role more. > We need > to discuss that, bit, I think being a consultant or catalyst will > make it > easier to decentralize the work and not compete with existing SME's > offering FOSS development and customization services. > > > > > > > > > -- > Best Regards > Tarek Amr > > http://tarekamr.appspot.com/ > > > > Ahmed Mekkawy <[email protected]> Mar 17 01:13AM -0700 > > Tarek, > > Before I reply to your points, I want to clarify that this strategy > was made > by the help of OpenEgypt. Few of the founders were members in the > committee > who made this strategy. And we'll be involved in the execution as well. > Whenever you see the community is mentioned, you can think of OpenEgypt. > > IMHO, the press release is pretty poor. I encourage you to read the > strategy > itself, which is downloadable from the same page of the press > release, or > here's the link: > http://www.mcit.gov.eg/Upcont/Documents/FOSS_Strategy_EN_2014.pdf > > Let me reply to your points inline: > > On Monday 17 March 2014 01:24:02 Tarek Amr wrote: > > Can we get the names of those who presented the strategy in the > ICT? I will > > try to dig in the Strategy document for more names? Those can be > our key > > contacts for now. > > The CairoICT event was announced on this mailing list before it > happened. > Anyway the presenter was Dr.Noha Adly (first deputy to the > minister). The > presentation she made was about the highlights of the strategy. The > slides > were available yesterday on the ministry website, but it's removed > for some > reason. Anyway it's attached to this email. > > > What topics should we focus on? What is the gap we need to cover here? > > Remember the the likes of IBM and Cisco will probably jump in > wearing their > > FOSS hats to offer something here. > > OpenEgypt will be represented in SECC council which will supervise and > coordinate the execution of this strategy. This doesn't mean that we > can > actually control everything, but at least we'll see and interact > with what's > happening. Of course everyone will wear the FOSS hats, Microsoft > already did. > let's see what we can do. > > > Accordingly, they will be looking for training partners. Open > Egypt can > > work here as a consultant, or to offer trainings. I am eager to > know your > > feedback about this. > > I guess OpenEgypt can do the consultancy part, but offering training on > proffessional basis is something I didn't consider. If someone want > to work on > this point, he's most welcomed. > > > - They will on one hand advocate FOSS to SME's, but on the other hand > > the government will also act as purchaser of FOSS. Can we prepare > a list > > of companies working in developing and customizing FOSS in Egypt? > > We worked on this for more than one time, we got some list on our > wiki, but I > can't say that it's the most complete one. > > > - We also need to have a list of key persons in the ministry and their > > roles within this strategy. > > I will be attending the first meeting for the execution isA, and will > communicate as much as I can isA. > > > - They said they will revise current ICT policies and related law > > articles relevant to FOSS adoption. What can be our input here? > > Our input here is really big. They won't be willing to change laws > unless we > fight for it. On the other hand we will need professional legal help > to point > out which laws need to be changed, and propose the required changes. > We will > have access to legal departments in the ministry, but I highly > prefer we got > our own. > > to discuss that, bit, I think being a consultant or catalyst will > make it > > easier to decentralize the work and not compete with existing SME's > > offering FOSS development and customization services. > > Agreed, we need to stimulate the private sector more than competing > with it. > > > > On 16 March 2014 23:23, Ahmed Koraiem <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Oh you meant the FOSS Strategy, that's well. > > > > On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 11:17 PM, Ahmed Koraiem > <[email protected]>wrote: > > -- > Ahmed Mekkawy > CTO | Founder > [email protected] > [email protected] > > Spirula Systems > www.SpirulaSystems.com > > > > Ahmed ElHefnawy <[email protected]> Mar 17 11:17AM +0200 > > شكرا لاحمد مكاوي على البريد والرابط والمرفق الذي اسعدني الحظ برؤيته > لاول مرة برغم اني كنت من مؤسسي المجموعة واعتقد بصراحة ان الموضوع لا > يمكن الوصول فيه برد من خلال البريد الاليكتروني وادعو لاجتماع لمناقشة > الامر واصدار رد مكتوب. > وارفض دعوة م. احمد حسين السابقة التي لم تشمل مستندات بها كما فعل > مهندس احمد مكاوي وبالتالي كان سيكون الاجتماع غير مجدي . > > > > > > Ahmed Mekkawy <[email protected]> Mar 17 12:21PM +0200 > > د. أحمد، > > للأسف أن النشر من طرف الوزارة كان مفاجئا لنا جميعا حتى أعضاء اللجنة > لم يعلموا > بموعد النشر. الجميع بما فيهم الأعضاء المؤسسين أسعدهم الحظ لأول مرة > برؤيته أيضا > باستثناء أعضاء اللجنة الوزاربة ، فلا تقلق لست وحدك فى هذه النقطة :) > > بالنسبة لرفض الدعوات السابقة فهذا شىء مناقشته الأن غير مجدية، وان > كنت أسجل > للمستقبل رأيى أن أى تصريح صحفى من الوزارة أو غيرها فى مجال اهتمامنا > يجب أن > نحدد كيفية الرد عليه او حتى عدم الرد. انما رفض مناقشة أخذ أى رد فعل > أصلا بحجة > عدم وضوح المعلومات تؤدى بأى مجتمع للموت البطىئ. > > شكرا > > On Monday 17 March 2014 11:17:17 Ahmed ElHefnawy wrote: > > -- > Ahmed Mekkawy > CEO | Founder > [email protected] > [email protected] > > Spirula Systems > www.SpirulaSystems.com > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "OpenEgypt" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "OpenEgypt" group. 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