في الغالب النص ده لطمأنة الكيانات المشابهة لمايكروسوفت On 18 Mar 2014 11:33, "Ahmed Mekkawy" <[email protected]> wrote:
> بص يا سيدى، فيه باراجراف واحد اتزود مرتين. حتلاقيه فى صفحة ٧ فى ١.٢.٥ تانى > باراجراف > adopting open source technologies ........ > > ..... GDP growth and overall development. > > هو مش لطيف لكن مش سىء قوى فى رأيى. هو محطوط بنفس النص فى ال executive > summery رابع باراجراف. > > انا مش شايفه كارثى، لكن طريقة تدخيله من ورانا مش مريحانى. ادينى رأيك فيه. > > --- > Please execuse my brevity/typos. Sent from my mobile device. > --- > Ahmed Mekkawy > CEO | Founder > www.SpirulaSystems.com > On Mar 17, 2014 5:14 PM, "Ahmed Mekkawy" <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> انا لسه حاشتغل على ده بالليل علشان هيا دخلت editorial بعدها ففيه تقسيمات >> اتغيرت و spellings وبتاع، ماقدرش اطلع الفروقات بطريقة الية >> >> ال press release زبالة وطلع من ورايا، حارجعلك فى فروقات محتملة >> للاستراتيجية >> >> >> On Monday 17 March 2014 14:51:31 Ahmad Gharbeia wrote: >> > فيه diff لما أخرجته الوزارة و ما اشتغلت عليه اللجنة؟ >> > >> > ;) >> > >> > رسالة [email protected] في 17 مار, 2014 م 12:36: >> > > Today's Topic Summary >> > > >> > > Group: http://groups.google.com/group/openegypt/topics >> > > >> > > * [Important] MCIT strategy <#group_thread_0> [7 Updates] >> > > >> > > [Important] MCIT strategy >> > > >> > > <http://groups.google.com/group/openegypt/t/f435511e3b8fd8ee> >> > > >> > > Ahmed Mekkawy <[email protected]> Mar 16 07:14PM >> > > >> > > Hello everybody >> > > >> > > The MCIT strategy was announced today. I would like everybody here >> > > to read >> > > it and give us feedback, as the community must have a say in this >> > > issue. >> > > >> > > English: >> > > >> http://www.mcit.gov.eg/Media_Center/Press_Room/Press_Releases/2967 >> > > >> > > Arabic: >> > > >> http://www.mcit.gov.eg/Ar/Media_Center/Press_Room/Press_Releases/2967 >> > > >> > > >> > > Please note that the press release is worse than the strategy >> > > itself, but >> > > both are important. >> > > >> > > Regards, >> > > ---- >> > > Ahmed Mekkawy >> > > CTO | Founder >> > > [email protected] >> > > [email protected] >> > > >> > > Spirula Systems >> > > www.SpirulaSystems.com >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > Ahmed Koraiem <[email protected]> Mar 16 11:17PM +0200 >> > > >> > > Is that the 3rd consecutive strategy in 3 consecutive years? These >> > > guys are >> > > doing a marvelous job :/ >> > > >> > > >> > > On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 9:14 PM, Ahmed Mekkawy < >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > Ahmed Koraiem <[email protected]> Mar 16 11:23PM +0200 >> > > >> > > Oh you meant the FOSS Strategy, that's well. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > Tarek Amr <[email protected]> Mar 17 01:24AM +0200 >> > > >> > > I will go through the bits and pieces that grabbed my attention >> in the >> > > press release and add my comments underneath them >> > > >> > > "The Ministry of Communications and Information Technology (MCIT) >> > > showcased >> > > the FOSS strategy main features during Cairo ICT" >> > > I can see here that in addition to the general interest in the >> > > ministry >> > > now, there supposed to be members who are aware of the topic >> enough to >> > > draft a strategy and present it in the ICT. >> > > Can we get the names of those who presented the strategy in the >> ICT? >> > > I will >> > > try to dig in the Strategy document for more names? Those can be >> our >> > > key >> > > contacts for now. >> > > >> > > "The Center has already started to design and implement FOSS >> training >> > > programs in the field of cloud computing and mobile applications >> in >> > > cooperation with the Technology Innovation and Entrepreneurship >> Center >> > > (TIEC)". >> > > Do We have something to offer here? Can OpenEgypt offer trainings >> to >> > > them? >> > > What topics should we focus on? What is the gap we need to cover >> here? >> > > Remember the the likes of IBM and Cisco will probably jump in >> > > wearing their >> > > FOSS hats to offer something here. >> > > >> > > Now let me have a quick look at the Strategy Document. >> > > >> > > "2.2 Improve Efficiency and Transparency of the Public Sector" >> > > This can serve as a gate to Open Source Software as well as Open >> > > Government >> > > Data. For example, CKAN is a FOSS software that is used by >> government >> > > to >> > > release their public data. We need to present that to them. >> > > >> > > Section 5, "High-LevelAction Plan", is a good summary for what are >> > > their >> > > plans. Thus, let me list the following points/opportunities. >> > > >> > > >> > > - They need to train governmental entities and the public as well. >> > > Accordingly, they will be looking for training partners. Open >> Egypt >> > > can >> > > work here as a consultant, or to offer trainings. I am eager to >> know >> > > your >> > > feedback about this. >> > > - They will on one hand advocate FOSS to SME's, but on the other >> hand >> > > the government will also act as purchaser of FOSS. Can we prepare >> a >> > > list of >> > > companies working in developing and customizing FOSS in Egypt? >> > > - We also need to have a list of key persons in the ministry and >> their >> > > roles within this strategy. >> > > - They said they will revise current ICT policies and related law >> > > articles relevant to FOSS adoption. What can be our input here? >> > > >> > > >> > > Finally, I can see that Open Egypt can act here as either >> consultant >> > > or >> > > service provider, however I personally prefer the former role >> more. >> > > We need >> > > to discuss that, bit, I think being a consultant or catalyst will >> > > make it >> > > easier to decentralize the work and not compete with existing >> SME's >> > > offering FOSS development and customization services. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > Ahmed Mekkawy <[email protected]> Mar 17 01:13AM >> -0700 >> > > >> > > Tarek, >> > > >> > > Before I reply to your points, I want to clarify that this >> strategy >> > > was made >> > > by the help of OpenEgypt. Few of the founders were members in the >> > > committee >> > > who made this strategy. And we'll be involved in the execution as >> > > well. >> > > Whenever you see the community is mentioned, you can think of >> > > OpenEgypt. >> > > >> > > IMHO, the press release is pretty poor. I encourage you to read >> the >> > > strategy >> > > itself, which is downloadable from the same page of the press >> > > release, or >> > > here's the link: >> > > http://www.mcit.gov.eg/Upcont/Documents/FOSS_Strategy_EN_2014.pdf >> > > >> > > Let me reply to your points inline: >> > > >> > > On Monday 17 March 2014 01:24:02 Tarek Amr wrote: >> > > > Can we get the names of those who presented the strategy in the >> > > >> > > ICT? I will >> > > >> > > > try to dig in the Strategy document for more names? Those can be >> > > >> > > our key >> > > >> > > > contacts for now. >> > > >> > > The CairoICT event was announced on this mailing list before it >> > > happened. >> > > Anyway the presenter was Dr.Noha Adly (first deputy to the >> > > minister). The >> > > presentation she made was about the highlights of the strategy. >> The >> > > slides >> > > were available yesterday on the ministry website, but it's removed >> > > for some >> > > reason. Anyway it's attached to this email. >> > > >> > > > What topics should we focus on? What is the gap we need to cover >> > > > here? >> > > > Remember the the likes of IBM and Cisco will probably jump in >> > > >> > > wearing their >> > > >> > > > FOSS hats to offer something here. >> > > >> > > OpenEgypt will be represented in SECC council which will >> supervise and >> > > coordinate the execution of this strategy. This doesn't mean that >> we >> > > can >> > > actually control everything, but at least we'll see and interact >> > > with what's >> > > happening. Of course everyone will wear the FOSS hats, Microsoft >> > > already did. >> > > let's see what we can do. >> > > >> > > > Accordingly, they will be looking for training partners. Open >> > > >> > > Egypt can >> > > >> > > > work here as a consultant, or to offer trainings. I am eager to >> > > >> > > know your >> > > >> > > > feedback about this. >> > > >> > > I guess OpenEgypt can do the consultancy part, but offering >> training >> > > on >> > > proffessional basis is something I didn't consider. If someone >> want >> > > to work on >> > > this point, he's most welcomed. >> > > >> > > > - They will on one hand advocate FOSS to SME's, but on the other >> > > > hand >> > > > the government will also act as purchaser of FOSS. Can we >> prepare >> > > >> > > a list >> > > >> > > > of companies working in developing and customizing FOSS in >> Egypt? >> > > >> > > We worked on this for more than one time, we got some list on our >> > > wiki, but I >> > > can't say that it's the most complete one. >> > > >> > > > - We also need to have a list of key persons in the ministry and >> > > > their >> > > > roles within this strategy. >> > > >> > > I will be attending the first meeting for the execution isA, and >> will >> > > communicate as much as I can isA. >> > > >> > > > - They said they will revise current ICT policies and related >> law >> > > > articles relevant to FOSS adoption. What can be our input here? >> > > >> > > Our input here is really big. They won't be willing to change laws >> > > unless we >> > > fight for it. On the other hand we will need professional legal >> help >> > > to point >> > > out which laws need to be changed, and propose the required >> changes. >> > > We will >> > > have access to legal departments in the ministry, but I highly >> > > prefer we got >> > > our own. >> > > >> > > > to discuss that, bit, I think being a consultant or catalyst >> will >> > > >> > > make it >> > > >> > > > easier to decentralize the work and not compete with existing >> SME's >> > > > offering FOSS development and customization services. >> > > >> > > Agreed, we need to stimulate the private sector more than >> competing >> > > with it. >> > > >> > > > On 16 March 2014 23:23, Ahmed Koraiem <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > > > > Oh you meant the FOSS Strategy, that's well. >> > > > > >> > > > > On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 11:17 PM, Ahmed Koraiem >> > > >> > > <[email protected]>wrote: >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > Ahmed ElHefnawy <[email protected]> Mar 17 11:17AM +0200 >> > > >> > > شكرا لاحمد مكاوي على البريد والرابط والمرفق الذي اسعدني الحظ >> برؤيته >> > > لاول مرة برغم اني كنت من مؤسسي المجموعة واعتقد بصراحة ان الموضوع >> لا >> > > يمكن الوصول فيه برد من خلال البريد الاليكتروني وادعو لاجتماع >> لمناقشة >> > > الامر واصدار رد مكتوب. >> > > وارفض دعوة م. احمد حسين السابقة التي لم تشمل مستندات بها كما فعل >> > > مهندس احمد مكاوي وبالتالي كان سيكون الاجتماع غير مجدي . >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > Ahmed Mekkawy <[email protected]> Mar 17 12:21PM >> +0200 >> > > >> > > د. أحمد، >> > > >> > > للأسف أن النشر من طرف الوزارة كان مفاجئا لنا جميعا حتى أعضاء >> اللجنة >> > > لم يعلموا >> > > بموعد النشر. الجميع بما فيهم الأعضاء المؤسسين أسعدهم الحظ لأول مرة >> > > برؤيته أيضا >> > > باستثناء أعضاء اللجنة الوزاربة ، فلا تقلق لست وحدك فى هذه النقطة >> :) >> > > >> > > بالنسبة لرفض الدعوات السابقة فهذا شىء مناقشته الأن غير مجدية، وان >> > > كنت أسجل >> > > للمستقبل رأيى أن أى تصريح صحفى من الوزارة أو غيرها فى مجال >> اهتمامنا >> > > يجب أن >> > > نحدد كيفية الرد عليه او حتى عدم الرد. انما رفض مناقشة أخذ أى رد >> فعل >> > > أصلا بحجة >> > > عدم وضوح المعلومات تؤدى بأى مجتمع للموت البطىئ. >> > > >> > > شكرا >> > > >> > > On Monday 17 March 2014 11:17:17 Ahmed ElHefnawy wrote: >> >> -- >> Ahmed Mekkawy >> CEO | Founder >> [email protected] >> [email protected] >> >> Spirula Systems >> www.SpirulaSystems.com > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "OpenEgypt" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "OpenEgypt" group. 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