Hi Sebastian,Segunodujebe,

I had been thinking about this as part of the NHS work where it would
be very helpful to do some of the original work in a mindmapping tool
then import it to one of the archetype editors.

I don't think the process needs to be too clever about node ids,
cardinality, typing etc as even just being able to import a simple
structure as text elements/ clusters would save a lot of typing and
drag-dropping. The editor could then be used to refine/refactor
datatypes etc This, of course would be a one-off exercise and not
'round-trip' as has been suggested but would be very helpful as a
start point.

Ian

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2008/7/10 Sebastian Garde <sebastian.garde at oceaninformatics.com>:
>
>
> segunodujebe at yahoo.com wrote:
>> Dear Sebastian,
>>
>> Thank you for answering my posting.
>>
>> The mind map view of the archetypes is a direct rendering by the Java Parser 
>> then. I see the point.
>>
>>
>> Let's look at it like this! Is there an opportunity for this kind of 
>> xml-based round tripping? The reason is xml seems to be the standard for 
>> achieving any standardised interoperability now and probably in the future.
>>
>> Could we not use the xml archetypes as you suggested to create a platform 
>> for abstracting the adl.
>>
>> Xml is widely supported:
>>
>> It may  allow integration among the different mapping standards.
>>
>> What semantics would one have to  build into the mind map to make it work?
>>
>> Does this sound like another area of research?Would it be worthwhile?
>>
> Sure, xml is widely supported and that is one reason why we have xml
> archetypes.
> So ok to generate a XSLT that transforms into a mindmap format such as
> freemind
>
> But in order to do it the other way round, you need all the information
> that is in the archetype in the mindmap.
> This includes node ids, various languages (of which you'd only want one
> usually in a mindmap), detailed info about each item, form cardinality,
> occurrences, etc.
> All this in a mindmap format, which gives you a lot of freedom, but not
> necessary computable expressiveness usually.
>
> As a research topic, why not. I agree it would be nice to be able to
> create a mindmap and convert this into an archetype somehow.
> Also the XML-archetype-to-mindmap-XSLT is certainly worth doing and may
> be a good starting point anyway.
> Such a transformation would be a great resource for openEHR in general.
>
> Sebastian
>> Thanks again
>>
>> Olusegun
>>
>> Olusegun Odujebe,MD,CISA,PMP
>> Enthusia Consulting Ltd.
>> Lagos Nigeria.
>>
>> ...There is a spirit in man and the inspiration of the almighty gives him 
>> understanding. Job 32:8
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>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "Sebastian Garde" <sebastian.garde at oceaninformatics.com>
>>
>> Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 13:38:30
>> To: <openehr-clinical at openehr.org>
>> Subject: Re: Archetyping Methodology-Mind Mapping
>>
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