Helo Pablo e Heather, Recently happened the same with me: I'm validating some data in obstetric's archetypes and some informations that were present in some archetypes that I already had downloaded before, were not present in CKM currently. I found out they were "withdrawn".
This fact took our local researchers to ask why they were superseded since that some informations that were present are important and should be maintained in the currently version. Exemple: in the archetype openEHR-EHR-EVALUATION.pregnancy.v1, that I had in my computer, talks about the membrane status during the labor, in cases if the rupture was spontaneous or artificial. In fact, we realize that we do not have the option of membrane stay intact all the time in childbirth (which is what we want in the most natural process possible). However, in the available archetype with the same information, the archetype openEHR-EHR-EVALUATION.pregnancy_summary.v0, doesn't have anymore the information about the state of the membranes. It is true that the current archetype brings better and clearer information than the old but I think some important information should not simply be deleted. Anyway, it is only observations that Heather has already explained me and, once all our validation considerations have been completed, I will submit those contributions to CKM reviewers. This is only the register, because this doubt and observation may be happening to other researchers as well. 2017-01-04 15:00 GMT-02:00 <openehr-clinical-requ...@lists.openehr.org>: > Send openEHR-clinical mailing list submissions to > openehr-clinical@lists.openehr.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/listinfo/openehr- > clinical_lists.openehr.org > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > openehr-clinical-requ...@lists.openehr.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > openehr-clinical-ow...@lists.openehr.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of openEHR-clinical digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. RE: Missing lab test archetypes from CKM (Heather Leslie) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2017 05:00:50 +0000 > From: Heather Leslie <heather.les...@oceaninformatics.com> > To: For openEHR clinical discussions > <openehr-clinical@lists.openehr.org> > Subject: RE: Missing lab test archetypes from CKM > Message-ID: > <ME1PR01MB09943F638C02695F6E6069A0FD610@ME1PR01MB0994. > ausprd01.prod.outlook.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hi Pablo, > > These archetypes were unpublished archetypes that have been rejected > according to the openEHR policy and for valid reasons around patterns and > design, still led by Ian. > See specs here: http://www.openehr.org/releases/AM/latest/docs/ > Identification/Identification.html#_lifecycle_model. The only exception > is that Release candidate has not been implemented in CKM. > > You can see the archetypes you are looking for in the openEHR CKM, > including their log message re what archetypes they have been superseded by: > ? openEHR-EHR-OBSERVATION.lab_test.v1 - http://www.openehr.org/ckm/# > showArchetype_1013.1.350_REVISIONHISTORY > Laboratory test, Rejected Archetype [Internet]. openEHR Foundation, > openEHR Clinical Knowledge Manager [cited: 2017-01-04]. Available from: > http://www.openehr.org/ckm/#showArchetype_1013.1.350 > ? openEHR-EHR-OBSERVATION.lab_test-blood_glucose.v1 - > http://www.openehr.org/ckm/#showArchetype_1013.1.564_REVISIONHISTORY > Blood glucose, Rejected Archetype [Internet]. openEHR Foundation, openEHR > Clinical Knowledge Manager [cited: 2017-01-04]. Available from: > http://www.openehr.org/ckm/#showArchetype_1013.1.564 > > I suspect that your issue is that your CKM search was only using the > default, in which the lifecycle states do not include Rejected and > Deprecated archetypes ? see the second tab labelled ?Lifecycle? on the > Search/Find Resources page. > > The current UI works with these set defaults so as to optimise access to > all current and active governed archetypes. If we added all rejected and > deprecated archetypes plus all those in incubators to the default search > then you would always find every archetype but there would be a lot more > ?noise?, which we felt was not useful for the majority of users. Perhaps we > have it wrong and if you have suggestions on how to improve this, please > contact me directly. > > Kind regards > > Heather > > > From: openEHR-clinical [mailto:openehr-clinical-boun...@lists.openehr.org] > On Behalf Of Pablo Pazos > Sent: Wednesday, 4 January 2017 5:50 AM > To: For openEHR clinical discussions <openehr-clinical@lists.openehr.org> > Subject: Missing lab test archetypes from CKM > > I been using these archetypes for some time (created by Ian): > > openEHR-EHR-OBSERVATION.lab_test.v1 > openEHR-EHR-OBSERVATION.lab_test-blood_glucose.v1 > I *believe* those were in the CKM before, but it seems that were removed, > the most similar I could find are: > > openEHR-EHR-OBSERVATION.laboratory_test.v0 > openEHR-EHR-OBSERVATION.pathology_test.v1 > openEHR-EHR-OBSERVATION.pathology_test-blood_glucose.v1 > If the first two archetypes were on the CKM before and also were overriden > by one of the mentioned above, shouldn't we have a more formal way of > deprecating archetypes? > > > -- > Ing. 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