Well, In this case, I recommend to add a kind of actor, that may be de aggregation of other actors. The administrator may decide which capabilities or roles this new actor may have, since it doesn't necessarily need to have anything in common with the aggregation of the capabilities of each of the actors it aggregates.
Best regards, Dario. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Beale" <[email protected]> To: "Dario Liberman" <liberman at ineba.net> Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 18:27 Subject: Re: Archetype rules (invariants) in openEHR RM? > > Hi Dario, > > you probably meant to send this to the group - you need to hit > "Reply-all" - it's the way the lists are set up unfortunately. You might > want to post your repsonse there... > > > > Dario Liberman wrote: > > >Thank you for your prompt response! > > > >The idea of this group, is that it is internal to the institution. Legally, > >I presume, the responsibility is of the chief directorship of the > >institution, and not the team. But internally, you may need a way to > >identify a group of people acting as one whole entity. And I still have not > >thought well about the cases, but it may not only be an administrative > >requirement, but the inability to represent groups of people in the system > >may also impact in future data-mining researches if it is worked around with > >an ad-hoc solution (like performance of a treatment in relation to the size > >of the group, or even overall experience of it as the sum of each individual > >'s years of experience / educational level, configurations of groups, etc) > > > >Perhaps I am missing the concept of Party that you propose, or at least > >making a too broad generalization of use. > > > I don't think so: if a team can participate in something, then they are > a party of some kind. We need a way to model it properly that's all. > > > > > > >Regards, > >Dario. > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Thomas Beale" <thomas at deepthought.com.au> > >To: "Dario Liberman" <liberman at ineba.net> > >Cc: <openehr-technical at openehr.org> > >Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 19:11 > >Subject: Re: Archetype rules (invariants) in openEHR RM? > > > > > >> > >>Dario Liberman wrote: > >> > >>>Hello! > >>> > >>>Nice site redesign you have got at openEHR.org :-) > >>> > >>> > >>>I have taken a look at the Demographic R.M. 1.2 > >>>I was wondering if it a Party may be also a team or group of people. > >>> > >>currently a PARTY can be an ACTOR - viz PERSON, ORGANISATION, or AGENT, > >>or else it is a ROLE. I have thought a little bit about teams etc, but > >>have not investigated the use cases. In mosts cases medico-legally it is > >>required that an individual be identified in any health activity. > >> > >>This demographic model is in its early stages, and we expect that it > >>will need some changes to allow for a general typology of PARTYs. > >> > >>>For example: > >>>Lets say that a clinician working at a given institution wants to > >>> > >prescribe > > > >>>the patient to have an interview with the group-Nuero-5 ( one of the > >>> > >groups > > > >>>of neurologists that analyze the need of internment), he may have a kind > >>> > >of > > > >>>contact search engine in which he finds parties, in this case not a > >>> > >person > > > >>>or organization but a group of people called 'group-Neuro-5'. > >>> > >>>If not, how does this example fit into the picture? > >>> > >>Hm - currently in all the situations we know of (e.g. Australia, > >>sitautions in Europe to my knowledge, north america) - the identified > >>party would have to be a registered provider - either they are a GP or > >>else it is an organisation such as a clinic or hospital. How do > >>you see a "group" of neurologists which is not a provider organisation - > >>can you describe what its status in the health system is in more detail? > >> > >>- thomas beale > >> > >> > >> > >>- > >>If you have any questions about using this list, > >>please send a message to d.lloyd at openehr.org > >> > > > > > > > > -- > .............................................................. > Deep Thought Informatics Pty Ltd > mailto:thomas at deepthought.com.au > > openEHR - http://www.openEHR.org > Archetypes - http://www.deepthought.com.au/it/archetypes.html > Community Informatics - http://www.deepthought.com.au/ci/rii/Output/mainTOC.html > .............................................................. > > - If you have any questions about using this list, please send a message to d.lloyd at openehr.org

