Hi to all,

The first question, when it comes to "episodes" is to know if you are 
talking about "episodes of care" or "episodes of disease". Of course 
both concepts are very different.
To try a joke, I could says "tell me how you manage your patients over 
time, and I will tell you who you are".

Certainly, the choise of Episodes of disease, as described by Gerard is 
the vision of GPs and closely related to Problem Oriented Medical Record 
(POMR).
Episodes of care is either the vision of a care place or the way a group 
is organisd to treat a specific disease : for example the treatment of 
cancer is organized using a pre-determined set of Episodes of care.

 From my point of view, Episodes of disease are the primary concept when 
you deal with continuity of care. An episodes of care is a technical 
concept, and often a local concept. Clearly episodes of care occur in an 
episode of disease.
If the Episode of disease if a worldwide clearly defined concept, 
through the POMR structure and the WONCA organization, you probably will 
find a specific definition of the episode of care in each care 
organization (care places or care networks) and I don't know if you can 
standardize it.

Best regards,

Philippe

> Colleagues,
>
> Consider the following as requirements from the Netherlands.
>
> The Dutch GP organization NHG has defined Episode as:
> An Episode is a chronological collection of medical data (episode 
> items) of one patient and describes the state changes over time 
> concerning one health problem.
>
> The name of the episode describes the health problem  (health issue) 
> and can be changed over time.
>
> The episode unordered list contains all episodes, open or closed.
> Episodes can have an attribute indicating "attention"
> Episodes can be closed and opened.
> Episodes can be joined and split
>
> One episode consists of episode items.
> Episode items are: report as the result of a contact, 
> Prescription/Order, Diagnostic Archive, Correspondence.
>
> Most of Marten Spook's attributes stem from these Dutch GP requirements.
> I consider Episodes as an alternative view on the information collected.
> It is a list consisting of links pointing to registered information 
> that is available in the system.
> The preferred place to store this list is the Folder.
>
> And then there are our DBC's (DRG's) One DBC is almost the same as an 
> Episode.
>
> Gerard
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> On 20 Nov 2004, at 02:42, Thomas Beale wrote:
>
>>
>>  This is part of a discussion that started off the list. The need is 
>> to be able to model Episodes in openEHR, while remaining compatible 
>> with available structures.
>>
>>  Currently, there is no "Episode" class (although this doesn't 
>> necessarily have to remain this way). Up to now, we have never been 
>> able to nail down sufficiently 'standard' requirements to satisfy 
>> everyone's idea of an "episode".  Instead we have suggested that 
>> Folders be used as reference containers to Compositions considered to 
>> have occurred in an episode. The current EHR reference model shows this.
>>
>>  More recent thinking on this issue:
>>  - on my recent visit to Mayo Clinic at Rochester Minnesota, I 
>> discovered that their idea of an Episode in the MICS system is "a 
>> period of care overseen by a particular clinician". E.g. if someone 
>> comes in with an injury, the doctor referred to (by a GP or by A&E) 
>> 'runs' the episode. Even if the patient sutains an MI while in 
>> hospital, and that becomes her main problem, and a cardiologist gets 
>> involved, the original clinician in almost all cases is in charge of 
>> the episode, and will make the discharge summary. An episode can be 
>> 'closed' on the MICS system, but can be reopened by some special 
>> operation, e.g. if erroneous information is spotted later on. I seem 
>> to remember that someone else can take over an episode - presumably 
>> if the original clinician becomes unable to continue giving care for 
>> some reason. (Someone from Mayo on this list might want to correct me 
>> if I have any of this wrong).
>>
>>  - Maarten Spook of 2Cure, Amsterdam has some very typical 
>> requirements of an "Episode", as follows:
>>  We think of attributes like:
>>
>>     1.      startDateTime: the date-time the episode is started 
>> (medically)
>>     2.      stopDateTime: the date-time the episode has ended 
>> (medically). When present this folder is closed?
>>     3.      createdDateTime: the date-time the episode was created 
>> (administrative)
>>     4.      contributers: care providers and their role 
>> (participations?) It would be clear to see who had added info and who 
>> is responsible for this episode etc
>>     5.      structured annotation: a short description of the content 
>> / context of the episode
>>  My comment on this is: of the above attributes, it is the first 3, 
>> and maybe #5 which need to be associated with an episode as such. 
>> Contributors can be determined from the contributors to versioned 
>> Compositions in openEHR (remember "Contributor" is actually a class 
>> itself in the openEHR Common model). Let us consider if we could 
>> achieve this just using Folders, as a "straw man" proposal.
>>
>>     1.      clinical start date time can be determined from the 
>> start_time of the first Composition in the Folder
>>     2.      clinical stop date time can be determined from the 
>> endt_time of the last Composition in the Folder
>>     3.      created date time of the "episode" - administrative. 
>> Depends on what this really means. The creation date time of the 
>> Folder representing the episode is easy - it is the time_committed in 
>> the audit attribute of the type VERSION<COMPOSITION> resulting from 
>> the class VERSIONED_COMPOSITION being a binding of VERSION_REPOSITORY 
>> to COMPOSITION.
>>     4.      contributors - as mentioned above, these can be derived 
>> from inspecting Compositions in the Folder
>>     5.      structured annotation describing episode. Usually this 
>> would be in the discharge summary, itself a Composition, containing 
>> narrative and links to previous Compositions & Entries in the 
>> episode. However, does it need to be someting else?
>>     6.      Maarten also mentioned that in their system, they want to 
>> be able to "close" an episode, in a similar sense as the Mayo 
>> description given above. This functionality doesn't exist in openEHR.
>>  Lastly, I believe in CEN ENV13606 there was the idea of a Folder 
>> that could be "closed", presumably to simulate an episode. However, 
>> some users of 13606 don't want to use Folders at all, so where would 
>> that leave them.
>>
>>  Some questions:
>>
>>     ?     are there other attributes or functions required in the 
>> "episode" concept?
>>     ?     is there any hope of standardising the idea of "episode" 
>> sufficiently to create a class in the reference model for it?
>>     ?     is the Folder good enough to model an episode?
>>
>>  over to the group....
>>
>>  - thomas beale
>>
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