For us it doesn't matter. It will have some pretty big consequences for 
our implmentation, since we currently assume a DVText everywhere in the 
code. Since we are behind on the specs anyway (meaning not really 
keeping up), this won't yet be integrated, untill we have a go at 
catching up with the changes made to the specificion.

We would like to see some kind of deprecation however for changes to the 
openehr model, since it currently is already a very big puzzle for us to 
  be able to use the new specs. Maybe it will somewhat clutter the 
specs, but currently we have to start downloading/tracking older 
revisions of the spec to get to what we implemented.
Example is the table_s which was renamed to item_table (with a whole new 
inheritence tree) in the specs, finding the right spec gave us a hard 
time (we didn't have the time to refactor everything to use the new 
structure).

You say :
This CR has passed, and the changes been made and tested in software but 
not released.

Which software and how was it tested ?


Mvgr,
Martin

Thomas Beale wrote:
> 
> Dear all,
> 
> this CR has been processed, but since it involves probably the most 
> crucial piece of meta-data in the data - the archetype node ids which 
> are imprinted into their corresponding data nodes - I want to ensure 
> that we are doing the right thing, particularly by implementors. 
> (original CR text - 
> http://www.openehr.org/repositories/spec-dev/latest/publishing/CM/CRs/CR-000024.txt)
> 
> To refresh your memories:
> 
>     * archetypes have an id for the whole archetype, like
>       "openehr-ehr-entry.blood_pressure.v1", and node-level ids
>       throughout the archetype, usually of the form "at0002" etc.
>     * these ids are included in data generated from archetypes. The node
>       ids are recorded in every node of the data; this is achieved by an
>       attribute in the LOCATABLE class (Common IM,
>       
> http://www.openehr.org/repositories/spec-dev/latest/publishing/architecture/reference_model/common/im/REV_HIST.html
>       - note this version is the current release, without the CR-000024
>       changes)
>     * this attribute used to be named "meaning", and was of type DV_TEXT
>       (allowing it to be a DV_CODED_TEXT as well), but CR-000024
>       proposed to alter that to an attribute called "node_id" of type
>       String. The idea behind this change is that all you need in the
>       data is the archetype node_id to be able to match data nodes to
>       archetype nodes and process them. It also simplifies the XML
>       considerably. Further work has shown that a function called
>       "meaning" is useful - this function does retrieve the whole term
>       from the archetype, in the language of the locale. Doing this
>       means that the archetype must be available, and/or that in EHR
>       Extracts, at least a copy of the ontology section of the
>       archetype, where these terms are defined, is included.
> 
> This CR has passed, and the changes been made and tested in software but 
> not released. However, during ARB discussions it was suggested that the 
> attribute name in LOCATABLE be changed to "archetype_node_id" rather 
> than just "node_id". Remembering that this is the name of an attribute 
> in the _data_, the idea was that "archetype_node_id" makes it crystal 
> clear that the value is a node id from the archetype, not some other 
> node id being used in the data. In XML data, this one attribute, along 
> with the archetype_id attribute (the one that appears at archetype root 
> points in teh data) are the only two which will be expressed as XML 
> "attributes", i.e. appear inside the tag. This a) clearly separates 
> these special attributes from the "real" data attributes and b) 
> significantly facilitates XPath/XQuery processing (work so far suggests 
> that we will be able to have very powerful Xpath-based data querying in 
> openEHR systems that use XML).
> 
> The question to the implementors is: which name is preferable - 
> "node_id" or "archetype_node_id"?
> 
> My recommendation would be that, if it doesn't cause terrible problems 
> to current implementations, "archetype_node_id" is better - it really is 
> unambiguous, and doesn't get in the way if at some future time we want 
> some other attribute called "node_id" in the EHR information model. 
> However, I know that we have said in teh past, and documented as such, 
> the name "node_id". So - what do implementers/would-be implementers think?
> 
> - thomas beale
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