Hi

Thanks USM, it is clear there are a lot of labels, the point is that I 
do not want to determine what they are, rather allow them to be used 
with an appropriate quantity or quantity range stored in the class.

My proposal is that we have a 'named quantity' class that displays a 
term, a quantity or a quantity range (as quantity range already has the 
interface for quantity).

Cheers, Sam

> On Sat, Jan 29, 2005 at 02:45:38PM +0000, Thomas Beale wrote:
> 
>>Williamtfgoossen at cs.com wrote:
>>
>>>I know that a lot of  this material has already been classified
>>>and  coded  in  the international  classification  for  nursing
>>>practice of  ICN (Geneva).  This kind of  referring to  age and
>>>time is  quite usual  in nursing  practice, (after  birth, post
>>>operative, young), infant)
>>>
>>
>>what vocabularies and  reference ranges should we  be using? It
>>appears that we need not just sets of terms like "after birth",
>>"post operative" etc,  but age ranges for them;  and then there
>>will probably be a similar  set for different disciplines. E.g.
>>I imagine that in perinatology "infant" might be defined as one
>>range, while for psychiatry it will  be defined another way. So
>>a single vocabulary won't do it.
>>
> 
> 
> This is an attempt to address the vocab and ranges issue.
> 
> This is  a difficult  issue. There are  numerous terms  in use,
> which  may  be  modulated  by local  factors  and  language  of
> communication. There are no WHO definitions here. Variations in
> terminologies are large.
> 
> The International Paed Assn accepts the following only:
> 
> o Neonate   :   > 0 days   <= 28 days (4 wks)
> o Infant    :   > 4 weeks  <= 1 year 
> o Child     :   > 1 year   <= Adult   (18 yr)
> 
> This adult  is a  'legal' definition (in most countries) rather
> than a biological entity. There is no biological definition for
> the term 'adult'.
> 
> IOW, only the terms 'neonatal' and 'infant' are defined, and is
> accepted by ALL  medical disciplines. The problem  comes in the
> huge age  group of 'child' encompassing  17 years ! I  have not
> come  across  any  clear definition  by  any  international  or
> professional body  to things  like 'adolescence',  'puberty' or
> other things brought out on the list (though they are in common
> use everywhere).
> 
> In India, an age-group range for  acceptance of terms are noted
> below.  This   is  after  discussions   with  a  dozen   or  so
> paediatricians to direct  questions like 'what do  you infer or
> mean  by the  term  toddler?'.  This can  at  best  serve as  a
> starting point to  work from. It may be prudent  to get further
> opinions of practitiones in  other countries before formalising
> these terms since these would have to be defined 'by the EHR'.
> 
> o Toddler      > 1 yr   <= 2.5 yr (not yet learnt verbal commn)
> o Pre-school   > 2.5 yr <= 5 yr   (happiness !)
> o year-old     ... e.g. 6 year old ... 9 year old child  
> o Pre-teen     > 9 yr   <= 13 yr  (occasionally used)
> o Adolescent   > 12 yr  <= 16 yr  (infrequently used)
> o Teenager     > 13 yr  <= 19 yr  (commonly used)
> 
> The term  'puberty' is normally  avoided because  of individual
> and sex  dependent variances,  though sometime  used by  an odd
> practitioner here and  there (mainly in Obs &  Gynae). The term
> 'adolescence' is not in common usage here, this normally refers
> to the 12-16  year age group. The pre-teen term  is seldom used
> and the 'year-old' nomenclature is used right through 6-12 yrs.
> (viz. 11 year old boy/ girl/ child).
> 
> As stated above,  there would be regional variations  in use of
> these terms,  and a  consensus needs to  be reached  for ranges
> after studying  all terms  used for  this sub-18  age group  in
> different countries.
> 
> This may serve the purpose of getting on track though ...
> 
> Dr USM Bish
> Bangalore
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