Gerard Freriks wrote:

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> I use this e-mail to promote other (we feel) important standards that 
> we -at CEN/tc251- are working on.
> It is the Health Information Systems Architecture European standard. 
> (HISA)
> It describes functions/services around the EHR that constitute a 
> functioning EHR system.
> Requirements based, the Enterprise viewpoint, the Informational 
> Viewpoint and the Computational viewpoint will be described. 
> The behavior and the interfaces of these services will be the content 
> of this  standard.
> An other standard we are working on is Concepts for Continuity of 
> Care. (CONTSYS) In this standard all the concepts are modeled that are 
> needed for co-operation between healthcare providers. Among other 
> things it models care plans, protocols, patient mandates, etc.
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> Both HISA and CONTSYS will play a role in the EHRcom archetypes, as 
> will the GPICS.
>
> Bert.
> Could you let us know how you feel now, having read this e-mail?

Sorry Gerard, for responding so late, I am so busy.

Looks promising to me, on one hand, I continue developing GPICs as much 
as is needed and asked for.
On the other hand, I will try to find funding for creating a 
live-query-set which can deliver data to archetype editors, and maybe it 
will be possible to support some ADL-scripts. I know, archetypes can be 
programmed hard-coded, but that has not much of a challenge to me.

We'll see, anyway there are people wanting GPICs, let me serve them first

Regards
Bert Verhees

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> On 17-jul-2005, at 21:43, Bert Verhees (ROSA Software) wrote:
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>> Hi,
>>
>> Thomas Beale asked me to write more to this mailinglist, and I have 
>> an important issue to discuss.
>>
>> Last thursday, I had a meeting wherein Thomas was present, in fact, 
>> it was education about EN13606. After a whole day of talking, by 
>> Thomas, he really did a good job. I noticed there was no mention 
>> about GPICs, and I asked Thomas, how GPICs fitted in his story. He 
>> said to my surprise, that they didn't. GPICs were in fact, obsoleet. 
>> But one could still use them to migrate data to an archetype-ready 
>> data layer.
>>
>> I was shocked, how is it possible that in silence a 400 pages part of 
>> a standard can be declared obsoleet. One throws away many many years 
>> of expensive work. Not only the standardisation comitee which must 
>> have worked for years on this, but also work from early adapters like me.
>>
>> I understand that it is better to change half way than to proceed in 
>> error. But if such an important change takes place, one will want to 
>> know how it is possible that such an erroneous large part (400 pages, 
>> 200 classes) of the standard can exist for so many years, and does 
>> not get critized publically. Something serious must be wrong somewhere.
>>
>> What also seems very strange to me, I discussed a GPIC 
>> SubjectOfInvestigation with Edward Glueck and Tom Marley on 25 may 
>> 2005, I discussed GPICs with Gerard Freriks on 4 jun 2005. No mention 
>> about the fact that GPICs are obsoleet, or will be obsoleet in a few 
>> weeks from then.
>>
>> Then on 14 july 2005 I hear that GPICs do not play a role in the 
>> EN13606 standard.
>>
>> Really, I am completely flabbergasted.
>> And not only me, I guess, but also the organisations which paid my 
>> expenses for quite some time.
>>
>> I wonder if there are some opinions about this subject.
>>
>> Kind regards
>> Bert Verhees
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