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From: Bert Verhees [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 8:30 AM
To: openehr-technical at openehr.org
Subject: Re: Authorisation


Gerard, thanks for your explanation.

I was a bit confused by the ISO18308-conformance document

I understand now, that there are classes X_ACCESS_CONTROL and
ACCESS_GROUP to 
handle this.

It is the local law which dictates how to implement access controls.

Bert


Op vrijdag 14 april 2006 13:44, schreef Gerard Freriks:
> Bert,
>
> " GP sends the patient to the hospital"
>
> What do you mean:
> Is he referred to a specialist? Then implicitly, at least in the 
> Netherlands, both the GP and specialist have access rights. Is he 
> referred to a lab-service in the hospital? Then the same reasoning can

> be applied. Always the patient has the rights to limit the access 
> rights of others, including him self and the GP.
>
> The whole business of co-operating physicians is dealth with in a 
> coming European Standard: "System of Concepts for Continuity of Care",

> ContSys)
>
> In the whole chain of events: Identification, Authentication, 
> Authorisation, Access Control and Logging. What you describe is, are 
> problems at the level of Access Control where the Patient mandate is 
> executed against the rights granted in the authorization phase.
>
> Gerard
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> On 14-apr-2006, at 13:12, Bert Verhees wrote:
> > A GP a few days ago was thinking of the following situation
> >
> > A patient goes to the GP, the GP sends the patient to the hospital, 
> > in the hospital there are some tests. The results of these tests can

> > arrive in the openehr system, possiblities
> > - the GP may not be allowed to see the results of these tests,
> > because the specialist thinks the GP is not qualified to judge the
> > outcome
> > - the GP may not be allowed to see the results of these tests
> > because the patient does not want him to see them
> > - the GP is allowed to see the results because the specialist and
> > the patient allow him to see the result.
> >
> > As I understand, in this case, the committer of the composition is 
> > the specialist
> > ------------------
> > As I understand this, a authorization application keeping track of 
> > authorizations and group-definitions is needed to support the 
> > openehr-using application. Are there any thoughts about this?
> > Can I read some more about this, anybody know where
> >
> > And also other thoughts about authorization by other ways are 
> > welcome.
> >
> > I was thinking of authorizations on the use of archetypes. In the 
> > above example, the specialist could have used a specially prepared 
> > archetype to post the test-results in case he did not want the GP to

> > see the results, and another archetype if he grants the GP to see 
> > the results, then there would be only one extra authorization 
> > necessary, the patient must allow the GP to use all the archetypes, 
> > he as a GP is entitled to use.
> >
> > But maybe, very well possible, I am overlooking a lot, so
> >
> > Please help me thinkig about this
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Bert Verhees

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Bert Verhees
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