Tom and Tim, I am not sure what this messages says or recommends what we need to do. I particularly don't understand the comment "The point is though, that the true "killer app" in health care must be based on a REAL health care data model." I think much of the clinical world is confused about the number of types of models and models now being presented. What kinds of models do we need and how should they be used? We have the RIM, activity models, data models, DAMs, use cases, story books, BRIDG, and others. Sorting this might be an excellent project for AMIA CIS WG.
Part of the problem also is sorting through the activities of various SDOs. None of the SDOs seem to offer an overwhelming solution to all the problems for a number of reasons, including scope. Ed Hammond Tim Cook <tw_cook at comcast. net> To Sent by: Tom Lincoln openehr-technical <tlincoln at exhubris.net>, AMIA CIS -bounces at openehr. WG <cis-wg at mailman.amia.org> org cc For openEHR technical discussions <openehr-technical at openehr.org> 03/20/2007 05:45 Subject PM Re: [cis-wg] Complexity, killer apps and other conundrums of health information was: cis-wg Please respond to Digest, Vol 37, Issue 12 (Juliana tw_cook at comcast.n Brixey) et; Please respond to For openEHR technical discussions <openehr-technica l at openehr.org> On Tue, 2007-03-20 at 14:27 -0700, Tom Lincoln wrote: > Thanks for your reply... The situation is certainly more complex as > the HL7 Clinical Document Architecture XML framework clearly > demonstrates... Just picked the first and simplest examples at hand. > > Tom [apologies for cross posting but I doubt it'll offend too many] Hi Tom (and all), This is certainly true. The CDA and the more constrained CCD demonstrate very effectively the difficulty in transferring health care information along with it's semantic context. This is of course the reason for the development of two level modeling and the maturation of over two decades work into the openEHR Reference Model and Archetypes as data descriptors. See: http://www.openehr.org I hope to (very soon now) introduce a query language based on openEHR archetypes that will also allow for a certain amount of "possibility and fuzzy" matching. This will allow the use of object database storage and retrieval based on a true data model. This will avoid the tragic mismatch and data fragmentation of object - relational mapping and the horror of SQL masquerading as a true relational model. The point is though, that the true "killer app" in health care must be based on a REAL health care data model. Cheers, -- Timothy Cook, MSc Health Informatics Consulting http://home.comcast.net/~tw_cook/ 01-904-322-8582 [attachment "signature.asc" deleted by William E Hammond/Dept_CFM/mc/Duke] _______________________________________________ openEHR-technical mailing list openEHR-technical at openehr.org http://lists.chime.ucl.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/openehr-technical _______________________________________________ openEHR-technical mailing list openEHR-technical at openehr.org http://lists.chime.ucl.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/openehr-technical