Right, I am sorry it came off that way - it was not intended as I wrote it. As with all Open Source projects, I expect nothing but will leverage anything :-)
Very helpful background and clarification - thank you! Greg http://www.patientos.org On 11/6/07, Heath Frankel <heath.frankel at oceaninformatics.com> wrote: > Greg, > I agree with Tim, that you can't always expect Ocean to provide these tools. > We just happen to be one of the main contributors to the openEHR foundation. > As Tim said, the openEHR specs are the normative artefacts including the XML > schemas provided at > http://svn.openehr.org/specification/TAGS/Release-1.0.1/ITS/XML-schema. As > for the archetypes, the ADL is probably the best source of truth but even > then there are some archetypes that have some errors left over from previous > versions of ADL and Editor tools. > > The XML archetypes have been generated using the Ocean Archetype Editor > which is available free from > http://downloads.oceaninformatics.com/products/ArchetypeEditor. The XML > archetypes provided in > http://svn.openehr.org/knowledge/archetypes/dev/xml are currently manually > generated using an old version of the editor and committed to subversion. > This is why a complete set is not available. These XML archetypes are NOT > valid against the openEHR R1.0.1 archetype and openehrprofile XML schemas, > they do not even use the correct namespace. They have not been updated > since R1.0.1 was release. > > Ocean has provided a auto-generation process for the NHS archetypes which > generate valid R1.0.1 XML and we will endeavour to provide this for the dev > archetypes as well. BTW, I have noticed an error in the term bindings XML > and will have this rectified ASAP. > > You could use the Ocean Archetype Editor to produce the required XML > yourself. A similar error as mentioned above exists for term bindings but > more critical as it does not produce valid XML when an archetype includes > term bindings. Again I will have this rectified ASAP. > > I will provide some background on the automated XML conversion process. The > ADL archetype is read using openEHR Eiffel ADL Parser reference > implementation which generates Archetype Object Model representation of the > archetype. Using the openEHR Archetype Model XML Schema based on the AOM we > simply serialise this AOM representation to XML. > > One of the issues you have highlighted is in regard to namespace prefixes. > The Ocean serialiser uses the openEHR AM schema namespace as the default > namespace and hence does not require prefixes. The LiU Editor obviously > uses an at namespace prefix. Both are completely valid XML. > > The second issue is the xsi:type of children. Look at the > openehrprofile.xsd and you will see that C_DV_QUANTITY is the correct type. > This is consistent with the openEHR profile specification. > > Thirdly, both DvQuantity and QUANTITY are wrong in this case. It should be > DV_QUANTITY as per the openEHR RM. The Ocean Archetype Editor now produces > this correctly and the XML converter used to generate the NHS XML archetype > is working correctly in this case, see > http://svn.openehr.org/knowledge/archetypes/dev-uk-nhs/gen/xml/openehr/ehr/e > ntry/observation/openEHR-EHR-OBSERVATION.blood_pressure.v1.xml. > > Hope this helps. > > Regards > > Heath > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: openehr-technical-bounces at openehr.org [mailto:openehr-technical- > > bounces at openehr.org] On Behalf Of Greg Caulton > > Sent: Tuesday, 6 November 2007 8:05 AM > > To: For openEHR technical discussions > > Subject: XML versions of the ADL > > > > In writing some code to parse the XML to populate my database I notice > > there is not always a matching XML on subversion for a given ADL. > > > > For example there is > > > > > http://svn.openehr.org/knowledge/archetypes/dev/adl/openehr/ehr/entry/observ > at > > ion/openEHR-EHR-OBSERVATION.blood_pressure.v1.adl > > > > > http://svn.openehr.org/knowledge/archetypes/dev/xml/openehr/ehr/entry/observ > at > > ion/openEHR-EHR-OBSERVATION.blood_pressure.v1.xml > > > > > > but not an XML for > > > > > http://svn.openehr.org/knowledge/archetypes/dev/adl/openehr/ehr/entry/observ > at > > ion/openEHR-EHR-OBSERVATION.respiration.v1.adl > > > > > > To get around this I started to use the LiU Archetype Editor but I > > realize now it generates a different XML than on subversion. For > > example the LiU editor generates nodes with type > > > > <children xsi:type="at:C_QUANTITY"> > > <rm_type_name>DvQuantity</rm_type_name> > > > > but on subversion it has > > > > <children xsi:type="C_DV_QUANTITY"> > > <rm_type_name>QUANTITY</rm_type_name> > > > > > > Is the XML unreliable such that I must use a Java ADL parser? > > > > thanks! > > > > Greg > > _______________________________________________ > > openEHR-technical mailing list > > openEHR-technical at openehr.org > > http://lists.chime.ucl.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/openehr-technical > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > openEHR-technical mailing list > openEHR-technical at openehr.org > http://lists.chime.ucl.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/openehr-technical >

