Erik Sundvall wrote: > Hi! > > On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Adam Flinton <adam.flinton at nhs.net> > wrote: > >> Is there an easy way to create or does anyone have any messages in XML? >> > > Not sure what the difference between EHR-data and messages would be > for openEHR if you (as it sounds) already have an envelope specified > to put it in. Please specify if you want something else than pure EHR > content. > > Looking at the examples from the sites below it is more to do with if datatypes/lists of values are defined etc.
e.g. I found an OWL statement/file http://trajano.us.es/~isabel/EHR/Data_Types_RM.owl Which does some of what we want but we'd be using Xpath/XSLT. e.g. <language> <terminology_id /> <code_string>string</code_string> </language> where code string is actually defined in the archetype as: <code_string>en</code_string> Is pretty easy. whereas : <rm_type_name>DV_CODED_TEXT</rm_type_name> less so. e.g. : "A text item whose value must be the rubric from a controlled terminology, the key (i.e. the ?code?) of which is the defining_code attribute. In other words: a DV_CODED_TEXT is a combination of a CODE_PHRASE (effectively a code) and the rubric of that term, from a terminology service, in the language in which the data was authored." ....in XPATH/XSLT.... It's a QA / "test the implementation" thing. For instance is there/ would it be possible for me to write an XSLT which could generate a test file in our required format (or even as a complete XSLT file which simply returns nothing if OK or structure containing the errors & where they occurred if any errors found). > When we need testdata in XML-form for student projects we usually > (with permission) "steal" some data in XML form from Oceans EHRView > (via web interface, http://demo.oceanehr.com/EhrView) or EHRBank (via > SOAP, http://demo.oceanehr.com/EhrBank13/EhrService.asmx). You'd need > to ask Ocean for permission and a a password to do this. > > The SOAP one is exactly what I was looking for (with the exception of datatypes). > I think there is a need for more realistic and completely freely > available openEHR testdata of various kinds from many sources (perhaps > as simple XML files or zipped XML file collections attached to openEHR > wiki-pages?). We could for example probably generate a fake diabetes > patient record within a week or two if somebody would like to give us > access to an environment for archetype based data entry we can access > via the web, we can send the needed templates from Oceans Template > Designer tool or the list of archetypes we need to use for data entry. > This is more of a heads up for me as at present we are in any early adopter/trial stage with a trail site etc. If though these messages start being transmitted over the central system then they will need to be QA'es etc & then at that stage I would like to "be prepared" <G>. > Any advice regarding possible systems available to enter test data? > Does the NHS XML/XForms tools contain everything needed to do this? > How is the Python implementation going? Other alternatives available > now? > > The NHS XML tools are just getting started wrt OpenEHR stuff. Other than publishing, this is the next thing (i.e. QA'ing the implementations/messages on the wire). Sort the QA first & then look at std'ized GUI's Adam > Best regards, > Erik Sundvall > erisu at imt.liu.se http://www.imt.liu.se/~erisu/ Tel: +46-13-227579 > > P.s. To help students play around with EQL through the web service I > did a quick Flash/Flex hack available at > http://www.imt.liu.se/~erisu/2008/ehrbank/ but it can't be run from > there due to security sandbox regulations of flash/flex unless the > application or a crossdomain.xml file is uploaded to the same server > ad the SOAP service. > > On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Adam Flinton <adam.flinton at nhs.net> > wrote: > >> Dear All, >> >> Is there an easy way to create or does anyone have any messages in XML? >> >> i.e. if one has a template or archetype is there any way to create an >> example of the message which would be sent using that archetype/template? >> >> Our message checking s/w in our Integration Center uses XPath, XSLT etc >> to run rules against incoming HL7 messages & I'd like to get an initial >> feeling wrt how/if this system could be used wrt OpenEHR messages. >> >> Forget about any external layers of the onion as they're already dealt >> with (i.e. http header info> good xml > good soap > good ebxml > good >> HL7) but then.... > ????? Open EHR. >> >> >> Right now if someone has a simple archetype or template containing a >> simple archetype (in XML) & an example message.....that would be of help >> as I simply need to look at the 2 next to each other to work out what >> the conformance checking people would need to look for/ how difficult it >> would be. >> >> TIA >> >> >> Adam >> ********************************************************************** This message may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient please accept our apologies. Please do not disclose, copy or distribute information in this e-mail or take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please inform us that this message has gone astray before deleting it. Thank you for your co-operation. NHSmail is used daily by over 100,000 staff in the NHS. Over a million messages are sent every day by the system. 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