Hi Seref, You said: "What about the legal consequences? For example: I can remember being told my multiple sources that it is not legal to store healthcare data of a UK citizen outside of UK."
I am not aware of any law restricting the storage of healthcare data outwith the UK. I suspect there may be some confusion around the UK Data Protection legislation which prohibits 'personal' data being held about a subject, without the organisation holding the data being registered. I doubt if the same could be held to apply to a patient wishing to store their own data in an overseas hosted environment. I can understand that many healthcare providers and national organisations are attracted by the Google/HealthVault model as by putting the patient in charge of the visibility of a potentially widely accessible health record, it relieves some of the difficult privacy and confidentiality issues. It is also fairly easy for the various system vendors to populate the very limited set of CCR clinical data classes via well-documented APIs. The only problem I see is that this is being touted as a panacea for all the well-known difficulties of implementing the EHR and ignores the the necessity for a useful EHR to be 'maintained' so that it reflects current knowledge, rather than just being a historical list of observations and evaluations which may conflict and will certainly not allow accurate workflow and scheduling support. Ian Dr Ian McNicoll office / fax +44(0)141 560 4657 mobile +44 (0)775 209 7859 skype ianmcnicoll ian at mcmi.co.uk Clinical Analyst - Ocean Informatics ian.mcnicoll at oceaninformatics.com Consultant - IRIS GP Accounts ian at gpacc.co.uk Member of BCS Primary Health Care Specialist Group ? www.phcsg.org 2008/9/14 Seref Arikan <serefarikan at kurumsalteknoloji.com>: > Hi Berth, > Please let me add my set of questions to yours, for I have not been able to > figure out the overall scheme of the discussed setup. Maybe its my fault, > and I apologize in advance if I've missed the answers in the discussion or > on the web. > What is the extend of Google's or Microsoft's offer to these hospitals? Both > MS and Google give me the impression that their offer is about personal > healthcare records. The extend of functionality they will offer is > important, because it can either be a complementary functionality that will > allow the patient to use his/her initiative to transfer data to allowed > parties, like the next GP or hospital, or it can be a complete alternative > to whole idea of national healthcare information systems, which is unlikely > in my opinion. > What about the legal consequences? For example: I can remember being told my > multiple sources that it is not legal to store healthcare data of a UK > citizen outside of UK. Will the mentioned solution be located in USA? Are > there similar legal constraints for discussed setup? > > Cheers > Seref > > On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 4:02 PM, Bert Verhees <bert.verhees at rosa.nl> wrote: >> >> All information below is published in the Dutch press, specially, the >> always good informed website on health ICT: Qure (http://www.qure.nl). >> Normally, I don't repeat press-messages on this or any other mailinglist, >> but this looks very important to many of us, who are working on a >> OpenEhr-implementation. I hope OpenEhr related press will occur so >> frequently that we don't need to know. Anyhow, a business-succes for Openehr >> related software is in my opinion a success for all of us. It means that >> OpenEhr will be something management have to think/talk about >> >> The latest update on this thread is, that the MCA (medical centre alkmaar) >> will run, as first hospital, software based on the European EPD standard >> (CEN 13606). This is also said by Hans Kedzierski (the person who announced >> that 10 hospitals are going to use the software from Google or Microsoft), >> member of the board of the MCA, and is published last friday >> This latest announcement will be explained on a public meeting in october. >> Interesting are the companies who are working together on this: HP, de >> 13-Groep, ERC, Unusual Visions, Carelliance/Medical Insight, Technicolor, >> ASP4All, Eurofiber en Priority Telecom. Special interesting for us is ERC >> (http://www.e-recordcompany.eu/), reseller of Ocean Software. ERC seems a >> brand new company, its website is not (yet) fully functional (need some >> polishing). >> >> Does this mean that the MCA will be using the two systems simultaneous? >> Does this mean that there will be data-migration software between OpenEhr >> and "Google or Microsoft" (always mentioned together by Kedzierski)? >> And if, how does this reflect on us? Will Google create an >> OpenEHR-data-exchange API? >> >> More on this you can read in on the news-site Qure: >> >> http://www.qure.nl/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=3179&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0 >> (it is not a free news-service) >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> openEHR-technical mailing list >> openEHR-technical at openehr.org >> http://lists.chime.ucl.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/openehr-technical >> > > > _______________________________________________ > openEHR-technical mailing list > openEHR-technical at openehr.org > http://lists.chime.ucl.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/openehr-technical > >
