We could also need to register someone who is unconscious and with no legal
documents, or a newborn who has not been registered yet.
There are even people who has not been registered yet in some places.

Cheers,

Sergio

On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 6:18 AM, Diego Bosc? <yampeku at gmail.com> wrote:

> What about a person that is only used for family history for an
> illness? Maybe you only know that the grandparent called 'John'
> suffered from the same disease of your patient, but you don't know
> much more about him.
>
> 2010/8/30 Stef Verlinden <stef at vivici.nl>:
> > Hi Sergio,
> > From a non-technical perspective: what's the use of registering a person
> > with no known legal identity? I one would allow that to happens your
> > database will be contaminated with unidentifiable 'ghosts' and I don't
> think
> > we should let that happen. I forgot where but there is a special function
> to
> > register anonymous people, maybe that's something you can use.
> > Cheers,
> > Stef
> >
> > Op 30 aug 2010, om 01:21 heeft Sergio Freire het volgende geschreven:
> >
> > Hi Sebastian and all,
> >
> > IMHO, I think that the invariant Legal_identity_exists:
> has_legal_identity
> > is too restrictive, because it may happen that you may register a person
> > without no known legal identity at the moment of registration. I think it
> > should be removed from the reference model.
> >
> > We also had to include the types of identity as a constraint in the name
> > attribute because the rm demands it. Again I think this is too
> restrictive
> > because we cannot register two identities of the same type because the
> name
> > must be unique among siblings. I wonder why the name attribute should
> > receive the type of the identity. If we remove these restrictions, the
> type
> > of identity could be moved to a normal ELEMENT in the archetype.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Sergio
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 5:27 AM, Sebastian Iancu <sebastian at code24.nl>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Ian,
> >>
> >> I was not thinking on names attribute of an archetype as holding more
> than
> >> names. Yet, the demographic_im.pdf is suggesting/stating to use them to
> >> associate a type meaning the the owner objects (i.e. things like
> >> PERSON/name/value = "PERSON" or ROLE/name/value = "General
> practitioner"),
> >> and for some objects the purpose() is designed that way as well.
> >>
> >> As you previously said, there can be RM-types and Archetype-types and
> the
> >> later is introduced in demographic package through this construction of
> >> 'name' attribute. As long as the scope of that 'type' is within (or
> related)
> >> that owner archetype domain I don't see any problem, but if that that
> 'type'
> >> need used outside I don't really see it working, without a proper coding
> >> system or at least a binding.
> >>
> >> Maybe I was not very clear in previous emails about my reasoning, maybe
> I
> >> am just confused about specifications or about the modeled archetypes on
> >> CKM, but nevertheless one of my main technical question remains:
> >> how can a function like ACTOR.has_legal_identity() be implemented
> >> regardless the archetypes being used?
> >> If you or somebody else can give some suggestion on this, I think it
> will
> >> be much more easier to understand the concepts behind the demographic
> >> package.
> >>
> >> Sebastian
> >
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