Just to concur with Heath. These are intended to describe the clinical assumption that it would be safe to make, usually about patient state, if the data was NOT specifically recorded. i.e if patient position was not recorded in a blood pressure reading, it would be safe to assume the patient was sitting, or if the oxygen level was not recorded in the ambient oxygen archetype, it would be safe to assume that the patient was breathing air.
In practice, we have very few examples in the CKM archetypes to date, where it is safe to make such clinical assumptions. Ian Dr Ian McNicoll office / fax? +44(0)141 560 4657 mobile +44 (0)775 209 7859 skype ianmcnicoll ian.mcnicoll at oceaninformatics.com ian at mcmi.co.uk Clinical Analyst? Ocean Informatics Honorary Senior Research Associate, CHIME, University College London openEHR Archetype Editorial Group Member BCS Primary Health Care SG Group www.phcsg.org / BCS Health Scotland On 20 September 2010 09:10, Heath Frankel <heath.frankel at oceaninformatics.com> wrote: > Hi Bert, > Assumed value is different to default value (see the AOM spec for definition > of assumed value, default value is further defined in the new 1.5 AOM spec). > If an element has a assumed value defined and its value is not present, the > assumed value should not be used in the data, it remains not present. ?The > meaning of not present is the assumed value from a clinical perspective, but > does not get injected into the data. ?Compare with a default value which > does get injected into the data when the value is not originally present. > > My understanding is that assumed values are most usually used in state, not > data (e.g. assumed value of blood pressure position is sitting). > > Heath > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: openehr-technical-bounces at openehr.org [mailto:openehr-technical- >> bounces at openehr.org] On Behalf Of Bert Verhees >> Sent: Monday, 20 September 2010 12:15 AM >> To: For openEHR technical discussions >> Subject: existence and assumed value >> >> Hi all, >> >> I noticed that the JAVA ADL-parser marks a CObject existence as >> required >> if it is not specified in ADL >> If there is also an assumed value specified, then this is, in my >> opinion >> conflicting, because the function of the assumed value is to use it >> when >> there an attribute is not used >> (page 21 AOM.pdf). >> >> Or am I wrong? >> >> Thanks for your attention >> >> Bert >> _______________________________________________ >> openEHR-technical mailing list >> openEHR-technical at openehr.org >> http://lists.chime.ucl.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/openehr-technical > > _______________________________________________ > openEHR-technical mailing list > openEHR-technical at openehr.org > http://lists.chime.ucl.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/openehr-technical >

