Hi Thomas,

I will agree with you, yes there has to be a generic health information model
but in my opinion it has to span over all three main layers of software
architecture 

1.       Physical/persistence layer

2.       Conceptual/Application/Object layer

3.       User interface layer/Serialized representation (XML,etc....)

 

RIMBAA technology matrix describes in the best way the different paths one can
follow to solve parts of the generic problem.

 

The big challenge in my opinion is that there has not been an OPEN
IMPLEMENTATION of a generic framework to cover all these layers. 

 

I have studied a bit the underlying structure of openEHR archetypes/templates,
where you are linking/binding user interface fields with clinical/admin entries
of the conceptual layer in one serialized object (ADL). By the way I am not
convinced that there has to be strong binding between user interface and the
conceptual layer (RIM). But clearly you are leaving out the mapping of data
captured from the forms (templates) to the company that is going to provide the
database management system in order to store permanently the user data. Of
course the aggregation of user data is also important in that case and I cannot
see any open approach that is taken from your side to cover or support that
process. Obviously I can also realize that there has to be a business model and
profit out of that story and if everything is open and free then many might go
out of business.

 

Anyway, let me continue a bit on ONE GENERIC e-health FRAMEWORK. One reason I
started the MEDILIG approach is because I realized that there has not been an
extensive, generic, easy to follow, standalone, OPEN ER schema in e-health to
cover the persistence layer am I wrong ? Developers do need to work with an open
database schema because that schema is closely related to the conceptual/object
model for programming purposes, business logic is shared between the two as
developers do know.

 

Question: Has anyone thought to IMPLEMENT an open conceptual framework and
generate from there a generic ehealth database model because that is what I am
exactly trying to implement using the programming environment of Microsoft
Entity framework and the RIM model of HL7. In fact this way I am turning MEDILIG
to an entity framework standardized through HL7 RIM and HL7 vocabularies.

 

One may realize the consequences of such an implementation. Developers can built
user interfaces of any kind, produce serializations, do mappings from any forms
created with other software tools, and make it easier to connect or redesign
legacy ehealth applications and databases. Or at least that is the way I
envisage it to happen....

 

One idea I have is that the framework can be specialized according to each
specialty and therefore you can make it even easier for a developer to approach
and implement a specific solution for an individual, a clinic, a lab, etc....

 

What I DO NOT have is capital, resources or even an employer interested in such
a business plan, where I can understand it up to a point ???!!!

 

Best luck to all 

 

Athanassios

 

PS1: Apologies to the non-technical audience for getting a bit into technical
details ;=)

 

PS2: The approach I am suggesting is taking the developer at the center of the
solution and attempts to standardize concepts, terms, properties, etc around
him.  One the other hand the user interface design should take the
clinician/health professional at the center and try to standardize the software
world around him. You have already achieved that at a great level I believe.
Then the two worlds have to be linked/mapped.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: [email protected]
[mailto:openehr-clinical-bounces at openehr.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Beale
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 7:21 PM
To: Openehr-Technical; For openEHR clinical discussions
Subject: on the possibility of 'one information model' in e-health

 


this is an often debated question, and after coming across (for the 100th time)
just such a debate recently online, I thought it might be interesting to try to
get to the bottom of the question in some way. The basic idea posted here
<http://wolandscat.net/2011/05/05/no-single-information-model/> . It is of
course not scientific work, but I would be interested in the views of others on
this concept.

- thomas beale

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