I agree with you both: we need to get things done and find reliable tools up to 
the task.

Many opensource projects use cloud based services, and don't need/try to make 
everything open source at the infrastructure level.

Jira is great for issue reporting and bug tracking. 
http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira/
Nabble is great for mailing lists. http://www.nabble.com/ (one thing that 
bothers me is the 40KB limit of the openEHR lists emails)
SVN or Git area great for version control.

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Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 14:51:33 +0200
From: sebastian.ga...@oceaninformatics.com
To: openehr-technical at openehr.org
Subject: Re: Tools for collaborative working


  


    
  
  
    I agree with you Thomas,

    

    Whether these tools are open source or just free as in beer (for
    openEHR) - doesn't matter too much...for me it is far more important
    that the tool does its job.

    If there are open source tools that really do the job - fine....very
    fine indeed, but if not, I for one, do not want to use tools just
    because they are open source if we can have better ones that are
    just free.

    

    Not sure where this discussion stems from, but I am reasonably happy
    with the current Jira, Confluence and SVN approach and do not think
    that changing this is a huge priority. 

    (It's not like there isn't anything on the foundation's priority
    list at the moment :-)  )

    But I may have missed the reasoning why openEHR's current tooling is
    not sufficient in the first place?

    

    Sebastian

    

    Am 16.09.2011 14:22, schrieb Thomas Beale:
    
      
      

      For openEHR, Atlassian hosted solution JiraStudio (not open
      source) may be worth considering since it solves the problem of
      physical hosting without (in theory) causing much disruption,
      since all the tools are the same - Confluence, Jira (particularly)
      and SVN.

      

      Atlassian bitbucket (completely separate from Atlassian mainstream
      hosted tools) uses Mercurial, a better DVCS than SVN, but its
      issue tracking etc is minimal.

      

      For the price of more disruption, Github would be one place to go,
      and it is probably the best DVCS there is (it was designed based
      on the BitKeeper solution we used to use in openEHR). How good the
      project tracking tools are I don't know, but they are claimed to
      be good. The main thing that is needed is integrated DVCS, project
      / issue tracking (with configurable workflows, security etc),
      wiki, mailing lists and continuous build server. 

      

      Whether having everything open source is fundamentally important
      is debatable - in principle it is nicer, but I am more interested
      in getting work done efficiently, not battling tools that are in
      early development (certainly my experience with most free issue
      tracking systems - maybe the Git one is better).

      

      - thomas

      

      On 16/09/2011 09:29, Ian McNicoll wrote:
      
        Hi Tim,

Can you give some examples of good open-source tools in this area?

Ian

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On 16 September 2011 00:09, Timothy Cook <timothywayne.cook at gmail.com> wrote:

        
          Well, maybe you should consider real open source tools.

        
      
    
                                          
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