So this sounds like a knowledge index service rather than a repository. Is
this where you get the correlation with RLUS?
Heath
On 01/02/2012 7:51 PM, "Ian McNicoll" <Ian.McNicoll at oceaninformatics.com>
wrote:

> Hi Heath,
>
> RLUS, as I understand it is designed to operate with EHR instance
> data, rather than knowledge artefacts, so is not suitable per-se, but
> there is a fair degree of cross-over in some of the querying and
> location requirements and it might serve as a decent start point for
> discussion.
> but are there other 'standards' that are more applicable to
> distributed knowledge repositories.
>
> Basic requirements
>
> 1. Query across multiple repositories using multiple criteria, based
> on something similar to the CKM ontology.
> 2. Establish references to remote assets, almost certainly caching the
> referenced asset locally
> 3. Establish subscriptions to remote assets, to enable change notification
> etc
>
> Ian
>
> Dr Ian McNicoll
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>
> Clinical Modelling Consultant, Ocean Informatics, UK
> Director/Clinical Knowledge Editor openEHR Foundation
> www.openehr.org/knowledge
> Honorary Senior Research Associate, CHIME, UCL
> SCIMP Working Group, NHS Scotland
> BCS Primary Health Care  www.phcsg.org
>
>
>
> On 31 January 2012 23:00, Heath Frankel
> <heath.frankel at oceaninformatics.com> wrote:
> > Hi Ian,
> > Interested in how you think RLUS can support a Knowledge service?
> > Heath
> >
> > On 01/02/2012 2:21 AM, "Ian McNicoll" <Ian.McNicoll at oceaninformatics.com
> >
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Pablo,
> >>
> >> Your initial ideas on a possible service layer would be very
> >> interesting. I think we are starting to see a need to support cross
> >> repository service layer but possibly split between formally governed
> >> assets and those that are in early or experimental stages of
> >> development (as we envisage with CKI). The requirements for governed
> >> cross-repository assets will be rather more demanding.
> >>
> >> Have you seen this HL7/OMG proposal?
> >>
> >> http://hssp-rlus-normative.wikispaces.com/home
> >>
> >> Might be a useful start point.
> >>
> >> Ian
> >>
> >> Dr Ian McNicoll
> >> office +44 (0)1536 414 994
> >> fax +44 (0)1536 516317
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> >> skype ianmcnicoll
> >> ian.mcnicoll at oceaninformatics.com
> >>
> >> Clinical Modelling Consultant, Ocean Informatics, UK
> >> Director/Clinical Knowledge Editor openEHR Foundation
> >>  www.openehr.org/knowledge
> >> Honorary Senior Research Associate, CHIME, UCL
> >> SCIMP Working Group, NHS Scotland
> >> BCS Primary Health Care  www.phcsg.org
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 31 January 2012 15:27, pablo pazos <pazospablo at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Hi Ian, it would be nice to share a common API or service layer that
> >> > both
> >> > groups can rely on, so we can make our tools compatible in some way.
> >> > I have an informal list of requirements that this tool should support,
> >> > maybe
> >> > we can start sharing our requirements and see if we can agree on a
> >> > common
> >> > interface (API/services).
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Kind regards,
> >> > Ing. Pablo Pazos Guti?rrez
> >> > LinkedIn: http://uy.linkedin.com/in/pablopazosgutierrez
> >> > Blog: http://informatica-medica.blogspot.com/
> >> > Twitter: http://twitter.com/ppazos
> >> >
> >> >> From: Ian.McNicoll at oceaninformatics.com
> >> >> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 14:57:20 +0000
> >> >> Subject: Re: Python / Django experience??
> >> >
> >> >> To: openehr-technical at openehr.org
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks Pablo,
> >> >>
> >> >> I will be interested to see how your app develops. We have a few
> >> >> Python volunteers so hope to have something visibly quite soon.
> >> >>
> >> >> Ian
> >> >>
> >> >> Dr Ian McNicoll
> >> >> office +44 (0)1536 414 994
> >> >> fax +44 (0)1536 516317
> >> >> mobile +44 (0)775 209 7859
> >> >> skype ianmcnicoll
> >> >> ian.mcnicoll at oceaninformatics.com
> >> >>
> >> >> Clinical Modelling Consultant, Ocean Informatics, UK
> >> >> Director/Clinical Knowledge Editor openEHR Foundation
> >> >>  www.openehr.org/knowledge
> >> >> Honorary Senior Research Associate, CHIME, UCL
> >> >> SCIMP Working Group, NHS Scotland
> >> >> BCS Primary Health Care  www.phcsg.org
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On 31 January 2012 14:45, pablo pazos <pazospablo at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> >> > Hi Ian, we are planning to work in this area but not with those
> >> >> > technologies, I think it will be PHP or Java/Groovy.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > What we want is just that: "a very lightly-governed
> >> >> > archetype collaboration,
> >> >> > simple review and discussion space to enable early communication
> >> >> > between
> >> >> > possible archetype developers".
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Firstly for the openEHR-ES community, to engage doctors and nurses
> in
> >> >> > archetype development, and later to show how to use that knowledge
> in
> >> >> > an
> >> >> > EHR
> >> >> > tool like EHRGen (http://code.google.com/p/open-ehr-gen-framework/
> ).
> >> >> > Later
> >> >> > it could be a general use tool.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > This will be part of our tool
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > chain:
> http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Yd3JhnuVjgk/TwMepovkBeI/AAAAAAAAE-4/7UCf-ry2JqY/s1600/openEHR+Toolchain+ppazos+sm.png
> >> >> > And it'll serve as a continuation for the students of our openEHR
> >> >> > course, to
> >> >> > embrace and don't lose the momentum after the course.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > Kind regards,
> >> >> > Ing. Pablo Pazos Guti?rrez
> >> >> > LinkedIn: http://uy.linkedin.com/in/pablopazosgutierrez
> >> >> > Blog: http://informatica-medica.blogspot.com/
> >> >> > Twitter: http://twitter.com/ppazos
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> From: Ian.McNicoll at oceaninformatics.com
> >> >> >> Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 11:10:57 +0000
> >> >> >> Subject: Python / Django experience??
> >> >> >> To: openehr-technical at openehr.org
> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Hi all,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Would any of you with Python / Django experience be interested in
> >> >> >> helping with a small open-source project to establish a 'Clinical
> >> >> >> Knowledge Incubator' website under the auspices of the Foundation?
> >> >> >> The
> >> >> >> intention is to establish a very lightly-governed archetype
> >> >> >> collaboration, simple review and discussion space to enable early
> >> >> >> communication between possible archetype developers. This is not
> >> >> >> intended to compete with a more formally-governed repository such
> as
> >> >> >> CKM but to allow archetypes, requirements and specification
> >> >> >> documents
> >> >> >> to be shared and discussed prior to more formal governance and
> >> >> >> development processes kicking in.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> The site will be based on the open source Snowcloud Clinical
> >> >> >> Templates
> >> >> >> framework see clinicaltemplates.org.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> The work needing done to adapt this for openEHR is broadly ..
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> 1. Add some sort of persistence/ repository back-end for
> archetypes
> >> >> >> and associated documentation e.g Github and/ or Dropbox. There is
> a
> >> >> >> very nice Python API for the latter which I got working. This does
> >> >> >> not
> >> >> >> need to be be particularly complex. Github would probably be a
> >> >> >> better
> >> >> >> solution but the limited versioning afforded by Dropbox is
> probably
> >> >> >> sufficient.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> 2. Add the ability to import from openEHR ADL/XML and .opt XML )
> >> >> >> into
> >> >> >> the native XML format. Derek Hoy, the Snowcloud developer, has
> >> >> >> already
> >> >> >> partially implemented this but it does need further work. Derek
> has
> >> >> >> been good enough to offer further support and guidance.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> 3. At some point some sort of integration with CKM would be
> >> >> >> interesting.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I will be taking an interest in the developments but have very
> >> >> >> limited
> >> >> >> Python skills.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Anyone interested?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Ian
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Dr Ian McNicoll
> >> >> >> office +44 (0)1536 414 994
> >> >> >> fax +44 (0)1536 516317
> >> >> >> mobile +44 (0)775 209 7859
> >> >> >> skype ianmcnicoll
> >> >> >> ian.mcnicoll at oceaninformatics.com
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Clinical Modelling Consultant, Ocean Informatics, UK
> >> >> >> Director/Clinical Knowledge Editor openEHR Foundation
> >> >> >>  www.openehr.org/knowledge
> >> >> >> Honorary Senior Research Associate, CHIME, UCL
> >> >> >> SCIMP Working Group, NHS Scotland
> >> >> >> BCS Primary Health Care  www.phcsg.org
> >> >> >
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