For the most part, I find that people who write negative remarks most often 
know little about the subject.  I for one have never viewed openEHR as 
controversial.  I think openEHR is competitive as is HL7, IHE and most other 
organizations.  Some of the competition is based on our belief that we are 
right; some on protection of our history and proprietary interests.  Actually, 
much of our life is based on competition, and I don't think it is a bad thing.  
Pot-shots and misstatements like in this book are actually a sign of success 
for openEHR.  Don't sweat it.


W. Ed Hammond
Director, Duke Center for Health Informatics
2424 Erwin Rd, 12th Floor, Room 12053
Phone: 919.668.2408
Fax: 919.668.7868
Assistant: Naomi Pratt
Email: naomi.pratt at duke.edu<mailto:naomi.pratt at duke.edu>
Phone: 919.668.8753

From: openehr-technical-bounces at openehr.org 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Thomas Beale
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 8:01 AM
To: openehr-technical at openehr.org
Subject: Re: Meaningful Use and Beyond - O'Reilly press - errata


It would be interesting to see what US-based list members think of what Michael 
has quoted below. Is openEHR really seen as 'controversial' in the US? 
(Controversy can be good - at least it means debate).

The quote below about David Uhlman being CTO of openEHR in 2001 is certainly 
incorrect - I imagine it is supposed to read 'OpenEMR', going by what I see 
here<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ClearHealth> in Wikipedia (in any case, 
openEHR has never had a 'CTO' position). That's a surprisingly bad fault in 
O'Reilly editing; worse, the author page for David 
Uhlman<http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/au/4766> on the O'Reilly website repeats 
the same error. This 
review<http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920020110.do#PowerReview> on the 
same website seems to confirm a complete lack of review or editing of the 
original manuscript. O'Reilly obviously is missing basic mechanisms for quality 
control.

But the more interesting question is: are the opinions in this book about 
openEHR representative of a US view?

- thomas

On 12/02/2012 11:22, Michael Osborne wrote:
I read the recently released O'Reilly book "Meaningful Use and Beyond" on 
Safari books today and found the following errors
and some quite blatantly false statements about OpenEHR.

Firstly is the claim by one of the authors, David Uhlman, that he was CTO of 
openEHR in 2001
 - a claim which Thomas Beale denies.

David Uhlman is CEO of ClearHealth, Inc., which created and supports 
ClearHealth,
the first and only open source, meaningful use-certified, comprehensive, 
ambulatory
EHR.... David entered health-care in 2001 as CTO for the OpenEHR project.
 One of the first companies to try commercializing open source healthcare 
systems
, OpenEHR met face first with the difficult realities of bringing proven 
mainstream
technologies into the complicated and some-
times nonsensical world of healthcare.

Secondly, a nonsensical statement about openEHR in the book...
p.161
OpenGALEN and OpenEHR are both attempts to promote open source ontology con-
cepts. Both of the projects have been maturing but some view these as 
unnecessary
additions or alternatives to SNOMED+UMLS. However, they are available under open
source licensing terms might make them a better alternative to SNOMED for 
certain
jurisdictions.

And this, p163...

OpenEHR is a controversial approach to applying knowledge engineering principles
to the entire EHR, including things like the user interfaces. You might think 
of Open-
EHR as an ontology for EHR software design. Many health informaticists disagree 
on
the usefulness of OpenEHR. Some believe that HL7 RIM, given its comprehensive
nature, is the highest level to which formal clinical knowledge managing needs 
to go.

I'm beginning to lose all respect for O'Reilly press. It's been all downhill 
since the camel book.

Cheers
Michael Osborne



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