On 01.10.2014 14:04, Shinji KOBAYASHI wrote:
> Hi Ian,
>
> I prefer V0, because it would be easier to adopt for other developers
> who do not know openEHR well.
> For parser implementation, 1.0.0-unstable is not a good design,
> because it is not clear that which is the later release amongs,
> unstable, testing, pre-release, release-candidate, draft, etc...
Actually, this is clearly defined by SemVer, see rule 11:
1.0.0-alpha < 1.0.0-alpha.1 < 1.0.0-alpha.beta < 1.0.0-beta < 
1.0.0-beta.2 < 1.0.0-beta.11 < 1.0.0-rc.1 < 1.0.0.
But I don't think we would usually want to do this at all for unstable 
archetypes.
They are just unstable, no guarantee whatsoever.
If you want to have a specific one, you can always use the unique build 
id for that.
Sebastian
> I would suggest 0.9.9 instead of 1.0.0-unstable. We can revise the
> revision 0.9.9 after it released, to 0.9.9.9. or 0.9.9.99.
>
> Shinji
>
> 2014-10-01 19:23 GMT+09:00 Ian McNicoll <ian at mcmi.co.uk>:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Apologies for cross-posting in both clinical and technical but this does
>> neatly cross that divide.
>>
>> We are getting close in CKM to implementing the ADL1.5 archetype naming
>> /versioning rules proposed at
>>
>> http://www.openehr.org/wiki/display/ADL/Knowledge+Artefact+Identification
>>
>> mostly by adding the metadata to the ADL other_details section, which means
>> we can carry the information in ADL 1.4 archetypes without disturbing
>> current systems.
>>
>> These latest proposals are now very much in line with the de-facto standard
>> SemVer 2.0 see http://semver.org which allows
>>
>> major revision
>> minor revision
>> patch
>> build
>>
>> but one of the questions which remains controversial is whether to support a
>> major revision of V0 (as allowed in SemVer).
>>
>> In Semver, V0 is allowed for very immature ?first draft? semantic
>> artefacts/APIs prior to initial release but SemVer allows for any revision
>> to appended with a pre-release modifier
>>
>> e.g. v2.0.0-alpha or v1.0.0-unstable
>>
>> This is recognised as meaning that the artefact is unstable and the version
>> numbering cannot be relied on e.g to assert backward compatibility.
>>
>> In that sense v0.0.0 and v1.0.0-unstable are identical in terms of their
>> ?stability? and lack of commitment to the versioning rules.
>>
>> So the question for us in the openEHR world is whether tooling should
>> support v0.0.0, or simply use v1.0.0-unstable
>>
>> V0 Advantages
>>
>> 1. The archetype is clearly marked as immature
>> 2. Full compliance with SemVer
>> 3. Supported in current test build of CKM
>>
>> V0 Disadvantages
>>
>> 1. Tooling e.g Archetype Editor (actually ADL Parser) needs to change to
>> support V0
>> 2. Add another layer of complexity to the archetype naming/versioning rules
>> 3. Question arises of whether / if to convert current draft V1 CKM
>> archetypes to V0 with overhead of explanation to current users.
>> 4. Adds complexity where V0 archetypes are being used within templates, when
>> the archetype is published and needs to be updated to V1 within these
>> templates.
>>
>>
>> V1- Advantages
>>
>> 1. Compliant with SemVer
>> 2. Does not need any changes to Archetype Editor.
>> 3. Easier transition between draft and publication states when used within
>> templates i.e does not need V0->v1 change
>>
>>
>> V1- Disadvantages
>> 1. Does not so clearly differentiate ?first draft? archetype from others
>>
>>
>> Before a final decision is made, we are interested in feedback from the
>> community on whether V0 should be implemented in CKM and other openEHR
>> tools, although in practice V1- will do an identical job in terms of version
>> number governance.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Ian McNicoll
>> Heather Leslie
>> Sebastian Garde
>> Thomas Beale
>>
>>
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