Following Thomas, I think for the missing descriptions you might need to 
put "between x and y" if x and y are available descriptions.
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------ Original message------From: Thomas BealeDate: Tue, Apr 26, 2016 12:42To: 
[email protected];Subject:Re: Ordinal values without 
descriptions    If you give someone a '3' on the Apparent Sadness scale, what   
   does it mean? Apparently it's between 'Looks dispirited      but does 
brighten up without difficulty' and 'Appears sad and      unhappy most of the 
time'....    So now imagine that this '3' appears for me in my record - just    
  that value. The scale doesn't tell you what it means. It probably      should 
have a value like 'Appears sad quite often' or similar.      Instead, I would 
see nothing at all, and maybe I would know to go      online and try to 
understand what 3 means by looking at the values      for 2 and 4. Even in a 
paper record, the problem is the same.
        At a technical level, the RM will does require a DV_CODED_TEXT.      So 
one question is: considering that the set of texts for an      ordinal is 
actually a set of terms, what does the term set look      like? It must be 
value set with only 4 members instead of 7.
        Personally I think that scale is not ready for use in paper or      
electronic health record...    - thomas
        On 26/04/2016 11:59, Bakke, Silje      Ljosland wrote:
                                        Hi everyone,                 We’re 
working on an            archetype for the Montgomery-Åsberg Depression Rating 
Scale            (MADRS). This scale contains several ordinal values where      
      there is no description, and some where there is no text at            
all. This doesn’t work very well in archetypes, and            particularly 
when uploading to a CKM, because there’s an            expectation that every 
field should be filled in, and the            CKM will replace empty fields 
with * or sometimes            *([language code]). Is there any way to get 
around this?                 See here for what the            MADRS looks like: 
http://www.psy-world.com/madrs.htm                          
  
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