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On Apr 3, 2007, at 9:12 AM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote:

Hi Jeff...

I am new to this whole thing, but IMHO this is only an initial list, and it will be updated. The list contains suggested members for the project's PMC not committers at all levels. And even if some of the listed members were not so active recently but they are among most experienced people of this
project. I am not commenting or arguing your decision, but I wanted to
declare my opinion for two things, first you may send comments on my opinion and then I will learn :), second as part of my commitment to this team and it is a duty to declare my opinions which I hope they are for the benefit of
this great team.

On 4/3/07, Jeff Genender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Actually...I have thought about this...and I have some reservations
about how this is graduating.

I had to step back and look at the email lists and contributions, and
discussions of this project. There are several folks who deserve to be
a part of this initial group.  I see people who have been much more
active than some on this initial list.  There have to be some hurt
feelings here, as I know I am.

I don't believe this is a way to start off a project by making an elite
group.  It is against my ideals of having a special group, and its
somewhat of a slap in the face of those who have been contributing in
one form or another.

Therefore, I am changing my vote to -1.

Jeff

Jeff Genender wrote:
> +1...but am I missing something...?
>
> Why am I not an initial member of the project? I was there when the
> project was at Codehaus and have been an active contributor here at
> Apache.  Am I missing something?
>
> Jeff
>
> Brett Porter wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Below is the current proposal for the OpenEJB TLP. Please vote on
>> whether to make this proposal a formal request to the incubator PMC to
>> apply for graduation.
>>
>> [ ] +1
>> [ ] 0
>> [ ] -1
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Brett
>>
>>
>>        Establish Apache OpenEJB Project
>>
>>        WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
>> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's >> purpose to establish a Project Management Committee charged with >> the creation and maintenance of open-source software related to >> enterprise application and remoting services, for distribution
at
>>        no charge to the public.
>>
>>        NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
>>        Committee (PMC), to be known as the "The Apache OpenEJB
Project",
>>        be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
>>        Foundation; and be it further
>>
>>        RESOLVED, that The Apache OpenEJB Project be and hereby is
>>        responsible for the creation and maintenance of a software
>> project related to enterprise application and remoting services;
>>        and be it further
>>
>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, OpenEJB" be and >> hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at
the
>> direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of The Apache
>>        OpenEJB Project, and to have primary responsibility for
>> management of the projects within the scope of responsibility of
>>        The Apache OpenEJB Project; and be it further
>>
>>        RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
>>        hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of The
>>        Apache OpenEJB Project:
>>
>>          * David Blevins       ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>>          * Alan Cabrera        ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>>          * David Jencks        ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>>          * Jacek Laskowski     ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>>          * Brett Porter        ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>>          * Dain Sundstrom      ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>>
>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that David Blevins be
and
>> hereby is appointed to the office of Vice President, OpenEJB, to >> serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
Board
>>        of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death,
>> resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or until a
>>        successor is appointed; and be it further
>>
>> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache OpenEJB Project be and hereby >> is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
>>        Incubator OpenEJB podling; and be it further
>>
>>        RESOLVED, that all responsibility pertaining to the Apache
>> Incubator OpenEJB podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
>>        PMC are hereafter discharged.




--
Thanks
- Mohammad Nour

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