Hello,
On 12/12/19 5:13 PM, Randy MacLeod wrote: > On 12/12/19 6:53 PM, Randy MacLeod wrote: >> On 12/10/19 2:34 PM, Khem Raj wrote: >>> On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 9:23 AM Randy MacLeod >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> In the YP technical meeting today, Richard suggested that we stop >>>> support for CentOS-7. Is there any objection to doing so >>>> before 3.1-M2? >>>> >>>> CentOS-7 is just too old and there is significant work to support it. >>> I am in support of it, but then I also fear that many corporate >>> policies might still >>> be using it until 2024 when security updates end so perhaps would >>> like to hear >>> centos7 users here. if no one speaks up then we can safely retire it >>> before 3.1 >> >> >> I confirmed that some of our customers still use RHEL-7 for >> many of their build machines. Some have only recently gone through >> the pain >> of upgrading from RHEL-6. Such an upgrade is relatively simple for >> individual >> developers but for large organizations it can take many if not 10s of >> person-years >> of work. It would therefore be difficult, costly, and painful for >> them to migrate >> again so soon. As Khem mentioned in another thread, supporting using >> SCL: >> https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/7/html/Developer_Guide/scl-utils.html >> >> may not be viable for such organizations either. >> >> >> At some point, be it in 2020 or 2021, such organizations will have to >> either >> update their OSes, use containers/VMs, or arrange for custom support >> for older distros >> but many users would prefer for that day be delayed until after >> oe-core-3.2 to >> coincide with the end of support for new hardware installs. > > FYI, for CentOS-7, the end of new hardware support/ 'Full Updates' is > Q4 2020: > https://wiki.centos.org/About/Product There seems to be interest in solving this issue. I strongly suggest those interested should get involved. I have opened a defect to track the issue to keep Centos7 in the AB. https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13714 The YP TSC is putting a time limit of 1/20/2020 (3.1-M2) when we will revisit this topic and determine where we go from there. Kind regards, Armin On behave of the Yocto Project TSC. > > ../Randy > >> >> ../Randy >> >>> >>>> Richard said that many if not most of the package upgrades that he >>>> deals with fail for CentOS-7 and he has to either fix them himself >>>> or get the person who submitted the work to do so. Newer distributions >>>> are not nearly so problematic. >>>> >>>> While the CentOS-7 distro is still a supported by it's provider, >>>> the toolchain is very old: >>>> - gcc-4.8 >>>> - glibc-2.17 >>>> - binutils-2.27 >>>> >>>> One could add a newer toolchain to the buildtools tarball to address >>>> some of the CentOS-7 support problems. So far, we have only use >>>> the host's toolchain and it seems best to continue to do so. >>>> >>>> Release and support dates for CentOS-6,7,8 are here: >>>> https://wiki.centos.org/About/Product >>>> Note that 'Full Updates' or new hardware support for >>>> CentOS-7 stops in Q3 2020. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> # Randy MacLeod >>>> # Wind River Linux >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Openembedded-architecture mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://lists.openembedded.org/mailman/listinfo/openembedded-architecture >>>> >> >> > _______________________________________________ Openembedded-architecture mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openembedded.org/mailman/listinfo/openembedded-architecture
