On 7/28/21 10:43 AM, Richard Purdie wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I've spent quite a bit of time seeing how to progress things. I now
> have a script which can convert layers and seems to have reasonable success
> on OE-Core, bitbake, yocto-docs, meta-yocto, meta-gplv2 and meta-mingw. I've
> proposed this for OE-Core along with an example conversion patch for OE-Core.
> 
> The current patch status is I have conversions (including to bitbake's core)
> in master-next branches. This nearly has q-quick builds passing on the 
> autobuilder, there are a handful of oe-selftest cases which don't pass yet.
> 
> Things do get a little more complex than I'd hoped. We use OVERRIDES
> in a number of interesting places, including within multilib configurations
> for the tune-XXX variable suffixes. I did try making the code do "fallback"
> variable lookups instead of expansion for tune- but I quickly gave up due 
> to the nesting. My view is that they are being used as overrides and we 
> should 
> therefore recognise them as such. Over time I think the tune code can be
> improved to take explicit advantage of that.
> 
> As such, I'm proposing we make the package variables and tune variables
> explicit overrides and the conversion scripts and patches above assume this.
> 
> I think the challenge is going to be the flag day issue for master branches.
> For example, there is code in devtool and other places which knows about the
> override character. If we allow mixing the different syntax for master then
> those tools need to complicate things by referencing both characters. To try
> and preserve what is left of my sanity, I'm starting to think we just require
> layers to migrate to the new syntax to continue to work with master. The good
> news is that those converted layers should work with dunfell and older 
> releases
> where the layer already does that with the backported bitbake syntax update.
> 
> If we accept that we need to have a flag day for master use, the question is 
> when. We could pick some data well in the future or even post 3.4 however I'm
> not sure this buys much and we probably may as well get on and do it.
> 
> Given these things, I therefore propose that we should start these changes 
> and require it for master, probably relatively quickly within a couple of 
> weeks?

Sooner the better is my view...

Thanks for all of this, I know it's going to make things better longer term no
matter when it switches over to the new format.  (Also making the tune-XXX a
first class override makes sense!)

--Mark

> Cheers,
> 
> Richard
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