On Fri, Jul 21, 2023 at 8:24 AM Alex Stewart <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I suppose I'll open this thread under -architecture; since this is
> really a policy decision.
>
>
> Hey List,
>
> At the moment, our fork of the opkg project is using a legacy Google
> Group as its primary mailing list [1].
>
> Google Groups has been abandoned by Google for years. It is not being
> updated and the only projects which exist there have been grandfathered
> in. Subscribing to the list is difficult. You either have to link your
> Google account - which most posters aren't going to want to do. Or you
> must send an email to an undocumented plus-extension for the list. And
> the whole process is generally obsolescent and off-putting, even for
> experienced devs.
>
>
> So I'd like to move opkg-development discussion somewhere else. At a
> minimum, it seems reasonable to move discussion to one of the OE lists,
> since the vast majority of contributors are on that list as well. But I
> can also see it being confusing that we are mixing discussions between
> the opkg project itself, and the opkg/OE recipes.
>
> How are other Yocto subprojects like this handled?
>
>
> Alternatively, I think it would make sense to move the project to a
> modern SCM implementation - like gitlab - where we can consolidate PRs,
> issues, and the codebase. As much as I'm comfortable using the
> email+gitolite+bugzilla workflow, it doesn't make the project very
> appealing to the newer developer generations.
>
> And I have to admit that my corporate IT department makes it as annoying
> as possible to use mailing lists: changing subject lines, changing urls,
> writing into the email body, blocking and swallowing ML emails as
> spam... While that's a me-problem, it is also an increasingly-prevalent
> us-problem for those who are contributing from corps.
>
> Do we have a gitlab solution within the Yocto project? Or has there been
> any discussion on this topic among the Yocto steering mindshare?
>

Currently yocto project uses email workflow for patches and there are no
plans in works to use something else as far as I know. It uses groups.io to
host mailing lists and thats what most subprojects use. There is also a
patchwork instance which monitors these mailing lists and some projects
do use that [1]. Some projects e.g. meta-raspberrypi uses git.yoctoproject.org
and github.com to host the repository and uses github workflow for development

We have tried to do gitlab for OE projects [2] but it did not fly much.

[1] https://patchwork.yoctoproject.org/
[2] https://gitlab.com/openembedded
>
> [1] https://groups.google.com/g/opkg-devel
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> Alex Stewart
> Software Engineer - NI Real-Time OS
> NI (National Instruments)
>
> [email protected]
>
>
> 
>
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