On 4/27/21 9:09 AM, Randy MacLeod wrote:
> Cross-posting to yocto since this is of general interest.
>
> On 2021-04-23 2:02 p.m., Alexander Kanavin wrote:
>> This puts them on equal terms with x11 distro feature
>> (which I think is due).
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>> Signed-off-by: Alexander Kanavin <[email protected]>
>> ---
>>   meta/conf/distro/include/default-distrovars.inc | 2 +-
>>   1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/meta/conf/distro/include/default-distrovars.inc
>> b/meta/conf/distro/include/default-distrovars.inc
>> index 9fcc10f83a..384ee7fc98 100644
>> --- a/meta/conf/distro/include/default-distrovars.inc
>> +++ b/meta/conf/distro/include/default-distrovars.inc
>> @@ -10,7 +10,7 @@ LOCALE_UTF8_ONLY ?= "0"
>>   LOCALE_UTF8_IS_DEFAULT ?= "1"
>>   LOCALE_UTF8_IS_DEFAULT_class-nativesdk = "0"
>>   -DISTRO_FEATURES_DEFAULT ?= "acl alsa argp bluetooth debuginfod
>> ext2 ipv4 ipv6 largefile pcmcia usbgadget usbhost wifi xattr nfs
>> zeroconf pci 3g nfc x11 vfat"
>> +DISTRO_FEATURES_DEFAULT ?= "acl alsa argp bluetooth debuginfod ext2
>> ipv4 ipv6 largefile pcmcia usbgadget usbhost wifi xattr nfs zeroconf
>> pci 3g nfc x11 vfat wayland opengl"
>>   DISTRO_FEATURES ?= "${DISTRO_FEATURES_DEFAULT}"
>>   IMAGE_FEATURES ?= ""
>>  
>
Randy,


> We (Wind River) already drop the x11 DF from some of our distros and
> we'd likely do the same for wayland and opengl so while this seems
> like the wrong change for headless systems it is one we could deal with.
>
> There was some discussion about this topic on the tech call today and
> people were concerned about BSP support for opengl since the software
> rendering in mesa is horridly slow.

Thanks for bring this issue up.

>
> Kevin, Bryan,
> Can you comment if you think we'd have any show-stopper problems
> with opengl support for BSPs?

Err, are they going to check my BSP ; )

>
> Joshua said that weston has a usable RDP (remote desktop backend) but
> I'm not sure how usable it is especially for single application sharing.
> This contrasts with x11 where you can use X11 forwarding over
> ssh trivially for whole desktops or an application.
>
> In conclusion, I see the value in pushing yocto forward but we may need
> to wait for agreement from BSP folks so let's see what they say.
The layer index  BSP list is long so waiting for feedback may not be
practical.  I think it may be  more of an awareness and how can the BSP
maintainers work around the default if there are issues rather than 
stopping this progress  in core.

I personal would rather see my layer break so that I will be forced to
take action.  I see this as being  no different than when we update
u-boot or the kernel.

- armin

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