Can you explain your issues with gdb with using a rootfs-dbg, because I don’t 
see any problem with a filesystem that only contains debug symbols, given how 
easily gdb can be configured to look into alternate paths. I’ll admit I also 
don’t know the difference between these modes, and also wonder how 
IMAGE_GEN_DEBUGFS relates.

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Christopher Larson
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Principal Software Engineer, Embedded Linux Solutions, Siemens Digital 
Industries Software
On Nov 15, 2023 at 7:21 AM -0700, Adrian Freihofer 
<[email protected]>, wrote:
> On Mon, 2023-11-06 at 13:50 +0000, Richard Purdie wrote:
> > On Wed, 2023-11-01 at 12:01 +0100, Adrian Freihofer wrote:
> > > Remove the image-combined-dbg.bbclass and make this the default
> > > behavior for the rootfs-dbg. A rootfs-dbg with only debug symbols
> > > but
> > > no executable binaries also causes problems with gdb, which is
> > > probably the most common use case for the roofs-dbg. This change
> > > simplifies and improves the user experience for a slightly larger
> > > rootfs-dbg.
> > >
> > > If the rootfs-dbg contains a complete copy of the rootfs, it is
> > > also
> > > usable for booting the target device over the network. This in turn
> > > simplifies other use cases with e.g. the use of perf on a device
> > > booted over the network.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Adrian Freihofer <[email protected]>
> >
> > I'm being pressured for review on this so I'll just say what the
> > problem is. I struggle to review this as off the top of my head, I
> > can't remember the difference between "rootfs-dbg" or "image-
> > combined-
> > dbg". I understand the patch gets rid of one and the argument appears
> > to be that gdb doesn't work well with the case that is removed.
> >
> > What isn't here is any reminder of what the differences are, or a
> > pointer to the history which lead us to have two different modes in
> > the
> > first place. We presumably had a reason for adding it.
> >
> > That means in order to review it, I'd have to dig into the history
> > and
> > work out the differences, then work out why we added the two modes
> > and
> > then determine if they're still needed.
> >
> > What would help speed up review would be a pointer to the original
> > commits and/or a summary of why the were added. A summary of the
> > differences between the two modes would also help/
> >
>
> We have tried to work through the git history and to search for use
> cases that rely on the old implementation. The git history does not
> explain why it is like it is.
>
> Enguerrand came up with theoretical use cases where the rootfs-dbg
> could be mounted somehow as overlay at run-time. I can't rule out the
> possibility of someone doing something like that.
>
> Maybe we should keep that as it is.
>
> @Ross: do you have a different opinion regarding the discussion we had:
> https://lists.openembedded.org/g/openembedded-core/message/188995
>
>
> Here are my notes. Just in case we would like to come back to this some
> when.
>
> - 7a7c6b021f114c6bedfbdc9afd2bf2925b238d19:
> The first implementation of rootfs-dbg only added the *-dbg packages
> and the package database.
> - 69d3df9169133d5e05eff25019569fb8974d48c2
> - c1ce0d9a9e200e35a9b6f9d537232875683ab9f1
> - e73a85be3e020561db92a197c593afe7fd952919
> - 1800b1ba7ae07cd010e529653eaa1d7a5841e6e5
> Added some workarounds related to opkg and openssl which got finally
> reverted again.
> - 364c4c7d3fc049f2b734a6a235758a75af364ce0
> Support for PACKAGE_DEBUG_SPLIT_STYLE= 'debug-with-srcpkg'
> - 5f30534c47571d199d8655b3da51f7b55fe20c04
> Introduce IMAGE_INSTALL_DEBUGFS
> - 18f080fbe4cf51824e5f1d73a10e06e3a5724423
> Removes the package database later, as it caused problems with RPMs.
>
> Comparison of
> $ tar xvfj core-image-minimal-qemux86-64.rootfs.tar.bz2
> $ tar xvfj core-image-minimal-qemux86-64.rootfs-dbg.tar.bz2
> without this patch verus
> $ tar xvfj core-image-minimal-qemux86-64.rootfs-dbg.tar.bz2
> with this patch applied shows some differences. This is expected
> because
> some of the post rootfs steps run after rootfs gets copied to
> rootfs-dbg. Changing this would require more changes.
>
> $ diff -r --no-dereference debug-fs1 debug-fs2
> Only in debug-fs1/etc/default: postinst
> Only in debug-fs2/etc/init.d: run-postinsts
> diff -r --no-dereference debug-fs1/etc/issue debug-fs2/etc/issue
> 1c1
> < Poky (Yocto Project Reference Distro) 4.3+snapshot-
> bc66d6ea4b3a6e6c9131295ee0783b88b5a90a02 \n \l
> ---
> > Poky (Yocto Project Reference Distro) 4.3+snapshot-
> 44ec9356d2d8686189531b55b2bd2b268b5dffa3 \n \l
> diff -r --no-dereference debug-fs1/etc/issue.net debug-
> fs2/etc/issue.net
> 1c1
> < Poky (Yocto Project Reference Distro) 4.3+snapshot-
> bc66d6ea4b3a6e6c9131295ee0783b88b5a90a02 %h
> ---
> > Poky (Yocto Project Reference Distro) 4.3+snapshot-
> 44ec9356d2d8686189531b55b2bd2b268b5dffa3 %h
> Only in debug-fs1/etc: ld.so.cache
> Only in debug-fs2/etc/rcS.d: S99run-postinsts
> Only in debug-fs1/etc: timestamp
> Only in debug-fs1/etc: version
> Only in debug-fs2/usr/sbin: run-postinsts
> Only in debug-fs2/var/volatile: log
> Only in debug-fs2/var/volatile: tmp
>
> Best reagrds,
> Adrian
>
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Richard
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> 
>
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