On Tue, Jan 21, 2025 at 8:52 PM ChenQi <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On 1/22/25 12:18, Khem Raj wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 21, 2025 at 7:03 PM Chen Qi via lists.openembedded.org
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> ping
> >>
> >> Is there something I need to do for this patch? Or is this patch not
> >> suitable for oe-core?
> >>
> > if we are enabling 64K pages then 32bit aarch32 apps should also be
> > compiled using 64k pages. Usually this could mean different
> > performance characteristics and 32bit apps are usually only rebuilt if
> > not used as prebuilts, so how will it function in a multilib
> > environment?
>
> Hi Khem,
>
> Sorry I don't quite understand what you mean. Could you please elaborate
> it a little bit?
>
> This patch's purpose is that if users enable 64K page for arm64 and they
> want multilib support, they can include this file in some conf file,
> e.g. some-machine.conf or local.conf, to make lib32 apps work.
>
> Do you mean that when users use multilib, they usually have some
> prebuilt app or library with 4K alignment? If so, then this patch is not
> suitable. In such case, they need to turn off the 64K page in kernel config.
>

Right, so I am ok with it being a separate machine config with
appropriate guardrails
but not default, as such someone could enable it as it might be
appealing for performance
etc.

> Regards,
>
> Qi
>
> >
> >> Regards,
> >> Qi
> >>
> >> On 1/16/25 12:34, Chen Qi via lists.openembedded.org wrote:
> >>> Ping
> >>>
> >>> Ross & Richard, is there anything else I need to do for this patch?
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Qi
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Chen, Qi
> >>> Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2025 9:54 AM
> >>> To: Ross Burton <[email protected]>
> >>> Cc: [email protected]
> >>> Subject: RE: [OE-core][PATCH V2] lib32-64k-pagesize.inc: add conf for 
> >>> building 32bit binary with 64K alignment
> >>>
> >>> Hi Ross,
> >>>
> >>> The "./bsp/marvell-cn10xxx" exists in yocto-kernel-cache's 
> >>> origin/yocto-6.6 branch.
> >>> In its master branch, the marvell-cn96xx.cfg also enables 
> >>> CONFIG_ARM64_64K_PAGES=y.
> >>>
> >>> This patch was tested on pristine poky + qemuarm64. The test steps are in 
> >>> the commit message. I didn't test all softwares in oe-core, but as 
> >>> lib32-core-image-full-cmdline started well with no failed systemd 
> >>> service, I assumed that most softwares should also behave well. I also 
> >>> tested lib32-sysstat with core-image-minimal.
> >>>
> >>> The help text for ARM64_64K_PAGES changed with this commit: 
> >>> https://github.com/torvalds/linux/commit/db488be354bc85724d7b9523e94435fdaa761a35
> >>> So 32bit arm was not supported at first, but at some point, it was.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Qi
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Ross Burton <[email protected]>
> >>> Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2025 1:02 AM
> >>> To: Chen, Qi <[email protected]>
> >>> Cc: [email protected]
> >>> Subject: Re: [OE-core][PATCH V2] lib32-64k-pagesize.inc: add conf for 
> >>> building 32bit binary with 64K alignment
> >>>
> >>> On 25 Dec 2024, at 03:04, Chen Qi via lists.openembedded.org 
> >>> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>> When 64K page size is enabled, for 32bit multilib, we'll need to build
> >>>> applications with 64K alignment, otherwise, we'll see errors like below 
> >>>> at runtime:
> >>>>
> >>>>    root@marvell-cn10xxx:~# /lib/ld-linux-armhf.so.3
> >>>>      Segmentation fault
> >>>>
> >>>> marvell-cn10xxx in yocto-kernel-cache enables CONFIG_ARM64_4K_PAGES=y by 
> >>>> default.
> >>>> And the issue was first discovered there.
> >>> Do you mean _64K_PAGES?  Where is this marvell-cn100xxx?  In 
> >>> yocto-kernel-cache there are no users of arm64-64kb-pages and nothing 
> >>> called cn10xxx.  Is this a Wind River-specific fork of yocto-kernel-cache?
> >>>
> >>>> However, there's a kernel config fragment in yocto-kernel-cache which
> >>>> enableds 64K page size for arm64: arch/arm/arm64-64kb-pages.scc. So
> >>>> it's easy for other
> >>>> arm64 BSPs to enable this. And when they do so, they'll have problem
> >>>> with multilib. This patch adds a config file to help people a little
> >>>> bit in such situation.
> >>>>
> >>>> The max-page-size option is used to fix this issue. This option is
> >>>> added to both CFLAGS and LDFLAGS for the purpose of covering as many
> >>>> recipes as possible.
> >>> First, I should point out that changing the page size is an ABI break, 
> >>> and the 32-bit ABI was formalised long before 64kb pages were a thing, so 
> >>> things _will_ break.  That said the loader should work, as a decade ago 
> >>> binutils 2.25 changed the alignment to 64kb pages by default:
> >>>
> >>> https://sourceware.org/git/?p=binutils-gdb.git;a=blobdiff;f=ld/emulparams/armelf_linux.sh;h=280db842208e06e3231ec3a8322369193630a07d;hp=35891f1fc91bddd03677aaefd7146ae5333e6cf0;hb=7572ca8989ead4c3425a1500bc241eaaeffa2c89;hpb=8335d6aa34b88ce31b62e1b578d54ab4aa364435
> >>>
> >>> That won’t help specific pieces of software that eg assume the page size 
> >>> is a built-time constant (and use the wrong constant), but helloworld 
> >>> should be good.  Can you replicate with pristine poky master and a 
> >>> minimal configuration in a qemu?
> >>>
> >>> Ross
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> 
> >>
>
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