On Thu Feb 12, 2026 at 10:45 AM CST, Mathieu Dubois-Briand wrote:
> On Tue Feb 3, 2026 at 2:20 AM CET, Randolph Sapp via lists.openembedded.org
> wrote:
>> From: Randolph Sapp <[email protected]>
>>
>> Add emptty, a "Dead simple CLI Display Manager on TTY". This is a
>> relatively lightweight display manager that supports x11 as well as
>> wayland through both a CLI and an automatic login mechanism.
>>
>> This can effectively replace the custom init scripts for both x11
>> (xserver-nodm-init) and wayland (weston-init) with a single tool with
>> more verbose logging capabilities.
>>
>> This is split into two recipes. The emptty package provides the binary
>> and various agnostic configs while the emptty-conf package provides the
>> default configuration for the application itself. This RPROVIDES
>> virtual-emptty-conf, allowing other recipes to provide their own
>> configurations to override the default behavior.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Randolph Sapp <[email protected]>
>> ---
>
> Hi Randolph,
>
> This patch has been in my branch for a week now, but we are seeing some
> intermittent reproducibility issues.
>
> I opened a bugzilla entry by error, as for a second I thought this patch
> was merged, so details can be found here:
> https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16171
>
> Diffoscope output is here:
> https://valkyrie.yocto.io/pub/repro-fail/oe-reproducible-20260212-ssslvz6_/packages/diff-html/
>
> Can you have a look at what is going wrong please?
>
> Thanks,
> Mathieu
Hey Mathieu, I'm at a serious loss here. The only differences I see are file
creation dates and intermediary archive sizes (normally only a difference of 2-4
blocks), which I assume are being changed by the creation dates as there are no
content diffs reported. I don't have direct control over either of these
components.
I agree that this is an issue, but I have no idea what is expected from me here.
I see some weird workarounds using touch in xorg-minimal-fonts and e2fsprogs,
but from what I understand that should not be required.
Shouldn't all packages get hit with the same SOURCE_DATE_EPOCH enforcement? One
of those packages is literally just a single text file that is installed with:
install -DZ res/conf -m 644 -T ${DESTDIR}/etc/${DISTFILE}/conf
On top of that, a local "oe-selftest -r reproducible" doesn't seem capable of
reproducing it. Are there any other logs you can share?
- Randolph
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