Minutes from the 2-day OE Developer's (American) Meeting in San Jose, CA
in March. All errors are mine. These are also posted on the OE wiki page
for OEDAM 2015.
OEDAM: OpenEmbedded Developer's (American) Meeting
March 27-28, 2015
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ATTENDANCE
in room:
mark hatle
michael halstead
bill mills
paul eggleton
denys dmitryenko
sean hudson
armin kuster
tim orling
philip balister
sona sarmadi
martin jansa
ken sharp
stephen arnold
changhyeok bae
herb kuta
benjamin esquivel
grant likely
jefro
phone:
richard purdie
belen barros pena
beth flanagan
bruce ashfield
(Apologies if I missed your name - jefro)
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AGENDA & SUMMARY
open issues & action items marked with =>
OEDAM 2014 summary
=> Lava - kernel ci can use it, not required; YP QA team experimenting
=> TSC role - board needs to run election, koen willing to be replaced
why is embedded still hard - progress making it marginally easier
layer quality - ongoing process
lune - setup image replacement, spurred demo discussion
next +1 - discussed
local.conf from third parties -
Security
testing security patches high priority, not all in one place
=> sona proposed security mailing list for monitoring, patches, policy
& agreed to investigate possible CVE database
owner: sona & fray
Infrastructure
github repos - obsolete repos going away June 30
make it obvious github is a mirror
OE-classic - keeping for historical reasons only
=> read-only & rename to oe-classic? oe-obsolete?
=> ok to disable push requests from github.com?
owner: crofton
Layer maintenance
build status reporting is better, incl. blacklisting bad recipes
layer index is very positive, does not (yet?) report layer quality
possible toaster integration in the future
Improving demos
noted SDR demo in YP booth at ELC running on different SoCs
html5/luna replacement for sato desired
what is good for developers vs. what makes a good demo - discussion
=> bmills suggested a monthly technical meeting to work on these issues
=> jefro to schedule meeting about demos: test images, sato, etc
identify problem, role of sato, suitable alternatives & usage cases
Patch review process
RP outlined patch review process
some aberrations in process illustrated - need tool improvement
some resources could be put into improving patchwork
to automate some processes that are currently manual
paul suggests adding functionality tests
=> general conclusion to focus on package managers, feeds, tools
=> sources from bitbake world builds moving to new location
crofton/michael will update DNS, should be invisible
Tests
autobuilder provides many testing featuers, automated qemu, ptests
OE self test doesn't run on autobuilder (takes too long)
=> need more resources from community
test mentoring helpful
Development cycle
paul asks whether the current dev cycle works
4-cycle system w/milestones (in YP) works well
testing could be improved as per previous discussion
some people still hold things back until last minute, RC process
using smart for RPM:
=> smart needs a new maintainer
brief discussion about YP technical call - terse agenda & minutes
=> jefro to work with sjolley to add RP's readout to minutes
discussion about collecting sources for an OE source mirror
# packages
armin asks, should there be a limit on packages in OE
fray & RP suggest OE has a self-imposed feature limit, by testing
=> discuss within TSC
documentation
more technical documentation resources needed
=> crofton to mention to Advisory Board
OE eV
SPI working well
changing eV structure, sean streamlining, possibly moving to US
next GA & possible OEDEM after ELCE in October/Dublin
Community Development / Team Building
Intro / crash course events
=> jefro to investigate materials, resources for promotion
Coordinated bug day sprints
note: general feeling that janitors list is misnamed
=> jefro - remind stephen to add triage info to bug list
=> crofton/paul - set up bug day US a.m., UK/EU afternoon
separate event for Asia
=> jefro - investigate webinar format
website/wiki
wiki cleanup needed, Jack's front page work?
=> jefro - organize as board/TSC administrative issue
TSC meetings
communication has been very important, now missing
=> organize issues & meetings every 2 months
community metrics
=> jefro - work with board
Other group/meetup activities
openhatch, internship programs like opw
=> all - contribute to Stack Overflow support/discussions
next OEDAM concurrent with ELC in San Diego, March 2016
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DETAIL
Full text minutes available at:
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