2010/7/30 Koen Kooi <[email protected]> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 30-07-10 09:21, Esben Haabendal wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 2:07 PM, Philip Balister <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > >> > >> On 07/29/2010 05:45 AM, Koen Kooi wrote: > >>> > >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >>> Hash: SHA1 > >>> > >>> On 29-07-10 10:50, Frans Meulenbroeks wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Dear all, > >>>> > >>>> Given the discussions on quality that sometimes pop up (and also > >>>> triggered > >>>> by Robert's message), I decided to kick off a bitbake -k world. > >>> > >>> Could you first explain to me why 'bitbake world' is a good way to > >>> measure quality? > >>> > >>> I would think that building something like console-image and looking at > >>> the following would be a much better metric: > >>> > >>> * does it build? > >>> * are all the rootfs types working? > >>> * does the image do what it is supposed to do? > >>> * Are all the licenses of the output packages correct? > >>> * Do the output packages have any spurious deps? > >>> * Is the content of the output packages correct? > >>> * Are there any known CVEs in the resulting packages? > >>> * Did packaged-staging do its job? > >>> * What kind of QA errors and warnings were raised? > >>> * Did all recipes pass recipe_sanity? > >>> * Did all recipes conform to oe-stylize.py? > >>> > >>> etc > >>> > >>> I would actually advocate removing the 'world' feature from bitbake/OE > >>> to stop people from wasting time on looking at bitbake world and have > >>> them fix actual problems. > >> > >> bitbake world seems to be the source of pointless listserv discussions. > Does > >> it serve any purpose? > > > > Pointless or not really depends on how you look at quality. > > > > If you look at it as you, Koen and other OE long-timers, yes, it looks > > rather pointless to have bitbake world. > > But for those of us who have a different view on what quality is, then > > bitbake world serves a purpose. > > As Thomas points out, as soon as you start blacklisting things (which > actually increases quality), bitbake world doesn't work anymore. >
Blacklisting does *NOT* increase quality. It just hides the problem and as such it is ostrich behaviour. Instead of masking the problem, better fix things. That is what improves quality! For me a non building recipe is a sign of poor quality. BTW: to avoid the blacklisting issue, I've restarted my test with minimal distro. Results will probably be available after the weekend. Frans. > That alone should be enough to kill it. > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) > > iD8DBQFMUouuMkyGM64RGpERAl42AKCE62tZc4ZGAH5WiLMPFNwn/YY0cACfTmMz > /YBK4XU/u1PuqmzoyXbF1f8= > =TNJJ > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > _______________________________________________ > Openembedded-devel mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.linuxtogo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openembedded-devel > _______________________________________________ Openembedded-devel mailing list [email protected] http://lists.linuxtogo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openembedded-devel
