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Truly an eye-opener!
We are sure more and more free modules will land now into launchpad now! Thanks Fabien 'Sir'! On Tuesday 12 February 2013 04:36 PM, Fabien Pinckaers wrote: On 02/11/2013 03:57 PM, Alexandre Bairos wrote:I think i missed the point. Wordpress is GPL http://wordpress.org/about/gpl/ and has one of the most successful marketplaces around it, things like themeforest.com <http://themeforest.com> , which is a killer app, with lots of payed themes available and services around it.Hello,1/ Ability to finance developments by selling modules The difference between Wordpress and OpenERP is the mass of users on these two applications. Due to its ERP nature, OpenERP will always have less users than a good open source CMS: http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=openerp,wordpress So, the potential to become profitable by selling modules with OpenERP is highly reduced compared to Wordpress. As the open source nature of OpenERP creates a strong incentive to shrink prices, it's nearly impossible to cover development costs by selling modules. --> Just imagine that someone can easily take the modules you sell at 300 EUR and sell them at 1 EUR, or distribute them for free. We tried in the past, and we failed. Those revenues will always be significantly lower than what you can do by selling services. 2/ Strong incentive of having open source modules The other difference between Wordpress and OpenERP is that the value or quality of Wordpress do not increase significantly with each module. As OpenERP modules are strongly integrated, things are very different. With OpenERP, a module can increase the value of all other modules which is one of the reason of the success of OpenERP. (every one benefit from the new kanban view, the chatter feature, or the DMS, no matter if you use CRM, project, or accounting). As an example, modules like a "Spanish localisation" or "Open Chatter" create a strong value for customers whatever the module they use. If those features were not open source, OpenERP could never have grown like we did in the past years. You can not do business with OpenERP in specific countries if the localisation is not open source. You can still do business with wordpress if not all the themes are open source. 3/ Our partner network is a "service company" network, not a network of software publishers companies Nearly all community modules of OpenERP have been developed for, and financed by, specific customers. They work well for the customer but are far from being usable by the mass, out-of-the-box. If we allow partners to resell their modules, they will start selling modules they developed for others customers. We know these modules will not fit most of the needs in terms of functional scope, quality, documentation, etc. So, not only the partner will be frustrated because the revenue are probably much lower than what they would have expected, but also the customer will be frustrated because the module does not fit it's need. That's something we want to avoid. Moreover, some modules on OpenERP are so complex (countries localisation, magento interface, ...) that they require several months of developments and feedback of hundreds contributors in order to become mature. As an example, I do not think that a single company would be able to develop a localisation alone, without having feedback and contributions. This is strongly related to the complex nature of an ERP and I guess Wordpress does not have these issues. But this complexity is also the reason why customers are willing to pay much more to implement OpenERP than Wordpress; OpenERP solves their complex problems, so it's highly valuable. 4/ Service market I followed, trained, helped to develop hundreds of partners. We are now convinced that you will succeed if you understand that the ERP market is a service market. Focus on getting thousands of EURO from implementing OpenERP, not on hundreds of EURO from selling modules. Most of the partners that tried to generate revenues by selling modules failed. We also tried it a few years ago (shared funding modules) and we failed too. The revenue stream was not good enough to sustain development and the maintenance of such modules. More over, most of these paid modules are deprecated now, so it's a very bad service for the customer, which makes me think it's not scalable. Think about it: who are most successfull OpenERP partners you know? You will notice they are also the ones that understood this model perfectly. As Olivier said, I am convinced it's better for the OpenERP eco-system to force having all modules respect the AGPL licence. If we open the door to "paid modules", this would be the start of a decreasing of the strong growth we have now. Fabien OpenERP FounderOn Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 12:52 PM, Christophe Hanon <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: It means for me what it means for many licences authors : software is distributed with the source code. As explained for example in GPL, AGP licences.____ __ __ Kind regards____ __ __ Christophe____ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ *From:*Alberto BARRIONUEVO [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>] *Sent:* 07 February 2013 10:49 *To:* Christophe Hanon *Cc:* Arun Venkat; Luc De Meyer; 'Bertrand Hanot'; 'Nabil Majoul'; 'Serpent Consulting Services'; [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>; [email protected] *Subject:* Re: OpenERP: [Openerp-community] Partners Collaboration Model____ __ __ Hi Christophe, El 06/02/13 12:17, Christophe Hanon escribió: ____ So I think more quality modules will be published the day publishers can get a minimal fee for their code.____ This is not incompatible with open-source – see the joomla extensions web site. 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