Hi Jeff, Usually in LATAM there are between 2 and 3 trainees in the official trainings, and these 30% cover International traveling.
Best Regards 2014-03-01 2:49 GMT-05:00 jeff.wang <j...@osbzr.com>: > Tello, > > Interesting numbers, thank you for sharing. > > But, 30% traveling expenses , why it cost so much ? > > ------------------ > Jeff Wang | j...@osbzr.com | 18016291663 |02158980787 > @OpenERP_Jeff "As simple as possible, As complex asneeded" > <http://www.osbzr.com> > Maintainer of Open ERP china community > http://www.openerp-china.org > > > > ------------------ Original ------------------ > *From: * "Yury Tello";<yte...@cubicerp.com>; > *Date: * Sat, Mar 1, 2014 03:20 AM > *To: * "Fabien Pinckaers"<f...@openerp.com>; " > openerp-community@lists.launchpad.net"< > openerp-community@lists.launchpad.net>; > *Subject: * Re: [Openerp-community] About OpenERP Enterprise contract > value... > > Hi Fabien, sorry for late reply, i was out of my office onlast days, but i > hope this reply helps to you and OpenERP SA tomake better business > relations with partners, customers andcommunity. > > First, we (Cubic ERP S.A.C.) only sell hours, we don'tsell software > because it is free, then we sell hours of consulting(funcional, technical > and training) to our customers. > > Then to start this business we first invest on education, likea MBA and > others, to us consultants. Then we invest paying toOpenERP SA the > partnership and training (about USD$6000) and toinitiate the CTP contract > prepay about USD$6500 more, finally, wepay 2 years more of partnership and > bought one OEE. > > About the revenues for sell OEE i get 10%, and for sellcourses i get about > 50% minus the traveling expenses. I not includeon this the hours sold > because to deliver this service i not needthe OpenERP SA support, and the > investment to make or hire aconsultant is outside of scope of OpenERP SA, > noted please, wedon't consume the 2 support hours offered on the > partnershipcontract because we save this for a critical situations. > > About OEE earnings this is not good because in 3 years we onlysold a OEE > of 5 users. > > About the courses: > - 1st year we sold all prepaid trainings (good) > - 2nd year we sold training over the target of CTP Contract(very good) > - 3th year OpenERP SA started sold the online trainings, thenwe sold few > training and not achieve the target (very bad) > > Summary: > - I invest on partnership an courses: about USD$12000 paid toOpenERP SA > - I got 10% for sold OEE (OpenERP SA earn 90%) > - I got about 20% for sold trainings (OpenERP SA earn only50%, 30% > traveling expenses) > > Make your maths... > > Best Regards > > > > > 2014-02-24 4:43 GMT-05:00 Fabien Pinckaers<f...@openerp.com>: > >> > Dear Erick, from my point of view, OpenERP SAneed change the way of >> > make business, to let to their partners earn money too. Thisis very >> > difficult because the head of OpenERP SA prove to beautocratic. An >> >> > example of this show on http://v6.openerp.com/node/1311 slide 9 , that >> > says: about the OEE partner prices, "Any extra user,adobe the purchased >> >> > contract, will be charged full price without discount, Theonly >> > possibility to upgrade your contract is at renewaldate". >> >> Hello Yuri, >> >> I would be very interested to know: >> - How much total revenue do you do on OpenERP ? >> - How much revenue do you do for OpenERP SA ? >> >> If you don't want to disclose your numbers, may be just a ratiobetween >> your "revenue for OpenERP SA" / "Total Revenue youdo on OpenERP". >> >> >> This would help me to understand if the revenue sharing is fair ornot. >> >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> > Then the first step is change of mind from one-to-win toall-to-win. >> > >> > Best Regards >> > >> > >> > 2014-02-22 0:08 GMT-05:00 Eric Caudal <eric.cau...@elico-corp.com >> > <mailto:eric.cau...@elico-corp.com>>: >> > >> > Hi OpenERP Partners, >> > There has been some questioning about the OpenERPEnterprise >> > Contract after some of Fabien's email and there is areal >> > debate/questioning about the value that this contract bringsto the >> > final customer. >> > >> > Current value is difficult to sell and lies basically (atleast in >> > my current sales experience) on the migration and somehow onthe bug >> >> > fixing. Other advantages are more difficult to handle: >> > - Private license has been a reason for me but I think this isvery >> > specific to some customers. >> > - There are those 2 hours support but this is few and not >> > proportional to the number of users ... >> > - The other reasons (automatic update and security alerts)seems to >> >> > me accessories and not decision-makers >> > >> > So now the question would be what would bring additional valueto >> > the contract that would really interest the end customer? >> > >> > I am thinking about the following advantages that could beadded to >> >> > the current package (for same price): >> > - one certification voucher >> > - one access to a dashboard to check one or several OpenERPinstance >> > health (with statistics and alert if down) >> > - specific Android application, only available if a validcontract >> > is up (could be business oriented or support oriented) >> > >> > What about you? >> > -- >> > >> > Eric Caudal >> > /CEO/ >> > -- >> > *Elico Corporation, Shanghai branch >> > /OpenERP Premium Certified Training Partner/ * >> > Cell: + 86 186 2136 1670 >> > Office: + 86 21 6211 8017/27/37 >> > Skype: elico.corp >> > eric.cau...@elico-corp.com<mailto:eric.cau...@elico-corp.com> >> > http://www.elico-corp.com >> > >> > Elico Corp >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community >> > Post to : openerp-community@lists.launchpad.net >> > <mailto:openerp-community@lists.launchpad.net> >> > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community >> > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Yury Tello Canchapoma >> > TeraData SAC >> > http://www.teradata.com.pe >> > Telecomunicaciones, Software & Seguridad >> > >> > Telef.:(+51 1) 5362222 anexo 20 >> > Av. Arenales 395 Of. 507 - Lima 1 - Peru >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community >> > Post to : openerp-community@lists.launchpad.net >> > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community >> > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> > >> >> >> -- >> Fabien Pinckaers >> CEO OpenERP >> Chaussée de Namur 40 >> B-1367 Grand-Rosière >> Belgium >> Phone: +32.81.81.37.00 >> Fax: +32.81.73.35.01 >> Web: http://openerp.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community >> Post to : openerp-community@lists.launchpad.net >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> > > > > -- > Yury Tello Canchapoma > TeraData SAC > http://www.teradata.com.pe > Telecomunicaciones, Software & Seguridad > > Telef.:(+51 1) 5362222 anexo 20 > Av. Arenales 395 Of. 507 - Lima 1 - Peru > -- Yury Tello Canchapoma TeraData SAC http://www.teradata.com.pe Telecomunicaciones, Software & Seguridad Telef.:(+51 1) 5362222 anexo 20 Av. Arenales 395 Of. 507 - Lima 1 - Peru
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