BTW, I just see that even Guido Von Rossum (Python creator) just re-Twitted that link, so I think you Pythonistas should really watch it...
2010/2/21 Raphaël Valyi <[email protected]> > Hello folks, > > I strongly suggest you look that presentation by a fellow Pythonista > that happened to open his mind to Ruby: > he clearly explains why Python clones of RSpec or Cucumber cannot come > close due to Python LANGUAGE LIMITATIONS (especially after 7'50): > > http://blog.extracheese.org/2010/02/python-vs-ruby-a-battle-to-the-death.html > > Now, he first makes a few critics to Ruby that I hope will give him > credibility to you Pythonistas (even if I think myself some of those first > statements are wrong: to me map[non_existing_key] raising an exception in > Python is just one of those unexpected singular cases that break rules where > they don't in Ruby and I think Python has just more of them; as for > optional parenthesis, they are also what makes RSpec/Cucmber and other DSL > so powerful in Ruby...) > > So, I desperately call you to give OERPScenario (Cucumber) a shot because > no matter the efforts you are willing to waste, you will not come close, as > explained in this presentation. So, I rather suggest you picks up that > incredible tool CampToCamp made and use it and rather use your remaining > time refactoring the core of OpenERP for less bugs, rather than trying to > make a clone that will fail to be as powerful. Note that in OERPScenario, > you will only use Cucumber, meaning that even if you would consider valid > the critics against Ruby, they just wouldn't apply as you don't have to > write Ruby code yourself past using the Cucumber/OERPScenario. > > Now, yes, I welcome you to implement YAML as an option for feeding OpenERP > with fixtures/meta parametrization rather than XML (look at HAML > http://haml-lang.com/ if you don't know how to do it for views, everybody > I know that tried it sticked to it and never went back to writing HTML XML > by hand), but this can be added in a backward compatible way, meaning after > 5.2 while lot's of refactoring/bugfix cannot be backward compatible and I > suggest you take car of that first for the 5.2 freeze. I also recall you > that for the test prospective Cucumber/OERPScenario supports YAML out of the > box already... > > NB1: notice that what C2C made with OERPScenario on the top of OOOR would > perfectly works with RSpec too for unit testing and low level TDD. > NB2: our TerminatOOOR OOOR based Kettle ETL plugin for OpenERP works like a > charm using laster code/instructions here: > http://github.com/rvalyi/terminatooor I'm just afraid we have no time to > document it further for now. > > Thanks > > Raphaël Valyi > http://www.akretion.com > > > >
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