Joël, unless Tiny points to a better link, I would say the Launchpad project is this one: https://launchpad.net/openerp-buildbot
Hope this helps Raphaël Valyi http://www.akretion.com On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 1:07 PM, Joël Grand-Guillaume < [email protected]> wrote: > Hi, > > > I wonder if I can get the URL of the Launchpad branch "test.openobject.com > "... > > I spend time to find it, but without success :( > > Please give me a hand. > > Regards, > > Joël > > > P.S. I release the OERPScenario 0.4, including tax support in invoice, > better Helpers, and tag for each supported LP bug (--tag=bugNUMBER). See it > there : https://launchpad.net/oerpscenario > > > Le 24 févr. 2010 à 12:09, Joël Grand-Guillaume a écrit : > > Hi Fabien, > > > I propose to integrate the OERPScenario in the continuous integration > server. So that each commit passes the OERPScenario tests: > http://test.openobject.com/ > > > Good to ear :) ! > > Can you handle the update the LP branch of the integration server to add > the process of the OERPScenario ? I propose between step 6 and step 7: > http://test.openobject.com/builders/stableOfficial/builds/463 > > The integration server code is a branch on LP, but Ihave to say I don't > rember which one it is. If you don't find it I will ask the developers. > > > Please give me a hand... I don't find it... > > We must also update the community/developper guide. We will do it for > yaml, I propose that you do it for OERPScenario. It's also a branch > lp:openobject-doc > > > Ok for me > > Thank you all for the good contributions and propositions for improvement. > > > You are welcome ! As you consider our work it's always a pleasure ! Think > on other good community project > also, like Poweremail, report Openoffice, Magento connector, ... I think > they deserve something too ! > > We really appreciate this time you communicate on our contributions. This > should be like this every time > a partner suggest something good... Saying: > > "OpenERP SA decided, with the collaboration of partner XXX, to do YYY" > > This won't cost you anything, and will just value the partner work, encourage > them to innovate and > spend "free hours" on some new ideas. Currently, we don't get something > that good for all our > suggestions. You just claim on Twitter : > > "We are changing our development methodology to be more BDD ( > http://bit.ly/r7L4). We will crite test scenario before each devs. > about 3 hours ago <https://twitter.com/fpopenerp/status/9567189077>via > web" > > "We" ... just means OpenERP SA... > > This is true at the end, but who just push you to that reflexion ? > Camptocamp.... The same happens on Launchpad & > Bazaar, Mako report, all the financial views we provide you, the financial > report and so on... Not a word in the whole > communication channel.... > > I mean, this is just a matter of respect to recognize those kind of things, > and I'm not the only frustrated guy on this topic. What I say is > we (the community) expect from you (OpenERP SA) to recognize our work, and > communicate on the good things this or > this partner did. Don't appropriate your-self all the good idea... > > Well, I finish my rant :) > > > Thanks you for considering our work, I hope this will be like this in the > future. > > > > Regards, > > Joël > > > > > Joël Grand-Guillaume wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Well, everything has been said then... We'll do as you said Fabien. Good > > to have both systems. > > > Just one more things you're definitely wrong : Real test case won't be > > just recorded by > > your module recorder, and a test case will be done ! Otherwise,others > > might have thought about > > this !!! I mean, as good as the module recorder is, it will never > > produce a test case just like this. > > > Anyway, go ahead now and stop discussing stuff... > > > I understand you want to promote both system, so I expect now to have > > the needed infrastructure > > put that in place. > > > - What do you suggest ensure OERPScenario will be run before every > > release of 5.0.x ? > > > - Where would you communicate about the existing testing systemS of > > OpenERP ? > > > - How do we organize our-self to provide the community the opportunity > > to invest their-self > > in the testing process ? > > > Thanks to follow my questions. > > > > Best regards, > > > > Joël > > > > > > Le 24 févr. 2010 à 08:14, Fabien Pinckaers a écrit : > > > Hello, > > > I think it's important to note that OERPScenario and Yaml allows to do > > exactly the same things: > > > * both allows to call Python code. In yaml, you can do something like: > > !python > > self.search(cr, uid, ...) > > ... > > * both allows to reuse preceeding tests. In OERPScenario you define > > reuseable regex, in YAML you define anchor and aliases. > > > * both allows to write tests in two steps: > > 1. a functional describe the test > > 2. a developper code/implement the test > > -> in yaml it's in one file, in OERPScenario it's in two files, linked > > by regexes. > > > Here are the real difference: > > > 1. OERPScenario is more based on code, whereas yaml is more based on > > data > > 2. As YAML is purely data, tests can be generated by the module > > recorder, in OERPScenario every test requires development (usualy > > quite simple, 2 lines of code) -> so no need to ask a developer > > to implement at all. > > 3. OERPScenario has a very clean and beautiful output, YAML has a text > > output, but not beautiful at all > > 4. OERPScenario is more complex to learn than YAML, which is just > > another way of encoding current .XML files of OpenERP > > 5. YAML is a uniq system for (demo) data and tests > > > Non-devs people will NEVER EVER be able to write tests case in a > > technical way ! this is why someone smart invent the Gherkin syntax... > > With this, business people only care on the Scenario, tech people > > about coding it... > > > Yes, you can. Selenium does it. > > > We can also do it through the module recorder in OpenERP. Quite easy: > > click on start recording, do all your operations, click on stop > > recording and it gives you the yaml file. So, you don't need the tech > > people to develop it. > > > With YAML, you can also do the same than in OERPScenario: > > > 1. A non-dev write the tests case: > > > - > > Given I have created a partner named "Demour SA" with the following > > addresses: > > | Luc | > > | Marc | > > - > > Then I expect the partner credit to be 0 > > - > > And when I change the partner name to "Demour sa" > > - > > Then I expect the partner name to be "Demour sa" > > > 2. The technical implements each test between each lines to finally get > > this: http://piratepad.net/mATgKAXiac > > > > > I think we can speak hours to argue on both solutions. Both are good and > > both have disadvantages and advantages. Here is my conclusions for our > > company: > > > * We promote both > > * In v5.0, OERPScenario is the only solution > > * In future versions and trunk, YAML only will be used by our developers > > for demo data and tests > > > I suppose C2C and Rvalyi will use OERPScenario for v5 and trunk and > > that's good. -> We will may be find twice as more bugs. > > > > > > > Both solutions may answer different needs: > > 1. As the editor, we have to take the easiest solution and fastest > > solution to develop tests, integrated in OpenERP > > 2. As an implementer, you probably need a clean output for your tests so > > that you can show them to your customers. > > > > One thing is sure, let's stop this small fighting "You must use this, > > not this one" or "This one is better". Let's just start promoting both. > > > Let's start another debate :) > > - do we also have to use selenium to test the client interface ? > > > thanks, > > > > -- > > Fabien Pinckaers > > CEO Tiny - OpenERP Editor > > Chaussée de Namur 40 > > B-1367 Grand-Rosière > > Belgium > > Phone: +32.81.81.37.00 > > Fax: +32.81.73.35.01 > > Web: http://openerp.com > > > Great Achievements Start With Tiny Investments > > -- Marty, 2005 > > > -- > > > > *Joël Grand-Guillaume** * > > > *Division Manager* > > *Business Solutions* > > * > > * > > *Camptocamp SA* > > PSE A, CH-1015 Lausanne > > > www.camptocamp.com <http://www.camptocamp.com> > > > > Phone: +41 21 619 10 28 > > Office: +41 21 619 10 10 > > Fax: +41 21 619 10 00 > > Email: [email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]<[email protected]> > > > > http://www.camptocamp.com/fr/business-solutions/formations > > > > > -- > Fabien Pinckaers > CEO Tiny - OpenERP Editor > Chaussée de Namur 40 > B-1367 Grand-Rosière > Belgium > Phone: +32.81.81.37.00 > Fax: +32.81.73.35.01 > Web: http://openerp.com > > Great Achievements Start With Tiny Investments > -- Marty, 2005 > > > -- > > *Joël Grand-Guillaume** * > *Division Manager* > *Business Solutions* > * > * > *Camptocamp SA* > PSE A, CH-1015 Lausanne > www.camptocamp.com > > Phone: +41 21 619 10 28 > Office: +41 21 619 10 10 > Fax: +41 21 619 10 00 > Email: [email protected] > http://www.camptocamp.com/fr/business-solutions/formations > > > -- > > > *Joël Grand-Guillaume** * > *Division Manager* > *Business Solutions* > * > * > *Camptocamp SA* > PSE A, CH-1015 Lausanne > > www.camptocamp.com > > > Phone: +41 21 619 10 28 > Office: +41 21 619 10 10 > Fax: +41 21 619 10 00 > Email: [email protected] > http://www.camptocamp.com/fr/business-solutions/formations > >
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