Hello again Ali,

Thank you for all you support so far. I think theres no way for me but
to go into FlowVisor's code. So, at first, I have a question and
appreciate any direction on how to go on with this:

At first, I'm really interested in how FLOW_MOD messages are handled.
According to the FV Wiki
(https://github.com/OPENNETWORKINGLAB/flowvisor/wiki/IO-Overview), is
it correct to say that a FLOW_MOD message from a controller/slice will
pass through a SLICER that will match it against the flowspace,
rewrite it and push it to the switch?


Thanks again,

Victor T.

On 3 September 2013 13:45, Ali Al-Shabibi <ali.al-shab...@stanford.edu> wrote:
>> 1) So FV does update its FlowTable Cache from OF Messages going Switch <-> 
>> Controller. But when you say "at most every 30s, means that if it doesn't 
>> get any update it asks the switch for its FlowTable? The FlowMod thing means 
>> that the FlowVisor asks periodically for the switch for modified flows?
>>
>
> So if no controller or user requests flowtable stats, FV does not store 
> anything in its cache nor does it make any periodic requests. But if your 
> controller asks for the flowtable then if it does not have a copy of the 
> flowtable or if the cache is old, it will fetch the flowtable from the 
> switch. Otherwise it will return the cached values. The reasoning behind this 
> is:
>
> 1. There may be many controllers sitting on top of FV, therefore there may be 
> many more flow table requests.
> 2. On some switch implementations, asking for the flowtable is an expensive 
> operation (ie. forwarding may be delayed)
>
> For those two reasons, flowvisor caches the flowtable. Of course, you can 
> change the refresh rate if you know your switches do not suffer from those 
> issues.
>
>
>> 2) If a slice controller wants to install a flow that changes the VLAN tag 
>> from A to B for a given flow, FV only approves it if the slice has 
>> Read/Write permissions on flowspace with dl_vlan=A and dl_vlan=B?
>
> That's is correct.
>
>> If dl_vlan is wildcarded then everything is allowed, right?
>
> Yup that's right as well.
>
>> Finally, if its set to NONE it cannot install or mod flows that have (to 
>> have) actions that change Vlan Tags?
>>
>
> And correct again ;)
>
>
>>
>> Sorry for asking so much but since these particular questions are very 
>> important for our research I would lilke to understand it as accurately as 
>> possible.
>>
>
> No worries, ask as many question as you can.
>
>
>> Thank you very much!
>>
>> Victor T.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3 September 2013 13:04, Ali Al-Shabibi <ali.al-shab...@stanford.edu> 
>> wrote:
>> Hi Victor,
>>
>>> 1) Does FlowVisor updates its FlowDB as OF Messages pass through it? Or 
>>> does it asks directly the switches for their Flow Tables? Reading the 
>>> source code I'm inclined to think of the first option.
>>
>> You are mostly right. Flowvisor stores a cache of the flowtable which it 
>> refreshes at most every 30s (this is configurable in versions 1+ of FV). One 
>> important note is that flowmods are not stored when they are pushed down by 
>> a controller, but rather they are periodically read from the datapath.
>>
>>>
>>> 2) I would like to be able to keep a certain controller from installing or 
>>> modding Flows that change the VLAN Tag of a packet, for instance. Can you 
>>> point out a direction to do this?  I was investigating the source code, but 
>>> I'm not sure if I should try to implement a new Callback type or something 
>>> like that.
>>
>> FV will disallow a controller from pushing or modding a vlan tag if either 
>> that vlan tag is not in the flowspace associated to that controller or if 
>> dl_vlan is set to none.
>>
>>>
>>> If I get to any results I would gladly pull it in the future.
>>>
>>
>> That would be fantastic. Let me know if you need more help.
>>
>>>
>>> Big thanks!
>>>
>>> Victor T.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 30 August 2013 18:46, Ali Al-Shabibi <ali.al-shab...@stanford.edu> wrote:
>>> Hi Victor,
>>>
>>> Currently, you cannot specify which openflow actions are allowed on a per 
>>> flowspace basis. This is clearly a desirable feature but unfortunately we 
>>> have not addressed it yet. We would welcome any pull requests/contributions 
>>> in this direction.
>>>
>>> Cheers.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Ali
>>>
>>> On Aug 30, 2013, at 11:58 AM, Victor Torres <vit...@poli.ufrj.br> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Hello,
>>> >
>>> > Does anybody know if it is possible to define allowed/denied actions for 
>>> > slices in FlowVisor?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Best regards,
>>> >
>>> > Victor T.
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>>>
>>>
>>
>
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