Hats off to you on the work on this first! On Tue, 2008-05-20 at 18:22 -0500, Karl Berry wrote: > * the font would need to be modified (reasonably) > > Well, that's the only time the whole question comes up. > > * the font would need to be renamed, or if same name kept, or similar > name, authorization needed by Adobe > > I agree. > > * then, group outlined in the license adobe provides, TEX user group, > > No, TUG has no rights to change any licensing -- we (er, I am the > president of TUG) only have the right to sublicense under the agreement > Adobe made with us, which we did. > > The agreement explicitly says that Adobe retains copyright ownership. > See lines 51ff of LICENSE-utopia.txt. > > So if you want to get the original license changed to the OFL, it's > Adobe you have to get to do that. Good luck. > > would need to make another license, preferably OFL which respects > adobe's first license > > I fail to see why you say that. As I explained, I personally believe > anyone can make a new font based on Utopia where the "original" parts > are under the Utopia license and the new parts are under the OFL. > If you want to go that way. (I wouldn't, myself.)
Which way would you go then? > Sound like a plan? Anyone interested in updating/rescuing this font? > > I don't think the term "rescue" is appropriate. Terry O'Donnell of > Adobe, others at Adobe, and I spent a whole lot of time truly rescuing > Utopia from its *previous* state, where the redistribution of modified > versions was in an ambiguous state, and various free software > pseudo-lawyers (no one else) insisted on the worst possible > interpretation. IANAL and hopefully try to stay away from armchair lawyer, as I apparently have done in this thread ;) Regardless, great work on this...I dunno, you might be amazed what Adobe would do to relicense Utopia ;) > Now the fonts are clearly free. My advice is, enjoy them. > > karl Sounds good...easiest solution, make new fonts released into PD or with OFL license ;) Jon -- Jon Phillips San Francisco, CA + Guangzhou + Beijing GLOBAL +1.415.830.3884 CHINA +86.1.360.282.8624 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.rejon.org IM/skype: kidproto Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IRC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _______________________________________________ Openfontlibrary mailing list Openfontlibrary@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/openfontlibrary