Firefox does not render the @font face on my box. (OS X) but Safari  
Does! aka Mac computers ship with there default browser supporting it.  
Looks like the momentum is in our favour.

Now, back to the ccHost. If someone is willing to coach me through  
what would be an ideal upload solution with compression please let me  
know. I had several suggestions made in my mind. The reason why I am  
asking is I may be able to code it, before I code it everything needs  
to be crystal clear to me though.

Brendan


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>   3. Re: typography.js        from    http://typeface.neocracy.org/
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>   5. Re: typography.js from   http://typeface.neocracy.org/
>      (Dave Crossland)
>   6. Re: typography.js from   http://typeface.neocracy.org/
>      (Christopher Fynn)
>   7. Re: typography.js from   http://typeface.neocracy.org/ (Ed Trager)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 20:28:00 +0000
> From: "Dave Crossland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Openfontlibrary] typography.js from
>       http://typeface.neocracy.org/
> To: "Liam R E Quin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> 2008/10/31 Liam R E Quin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 11:33 +0000, Dave Crossland wrote:
>>> http://typeface.neocracy.org/
>>>
>>> I think it would be great for OFLB to support this once day, as a
>>> 'fallback' for browsers without @font-face linking support :-)
>>
>> Even better would be to see @font-face supported more widely :D
>
> It seems pango is blocking @font-face from Firefox 3.1 on GNU/Linux...
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 22:06:26 +0000
> From: "Dave Crossland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [Openfontlibrary] FontForge has direct support for
>       DOWNLOADING and uploading!
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> http://fontforge.sourceforge.net/oflib.html
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> George, this is fantastic work! :-)
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> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 00:51:19 +0200
> From: Khaled Hosny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Openfontlibrary] typography.js  from
>       http://typeface.neocracy.org/
> To: Dave Crossland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 08:28:00PM +0000, Dave Crossland wrote:
>> 2008/10/31 Liam R E Quin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>> On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 11:33 +0000, Dave Crossland wrote:
>>>> http://typeface.neocracy.org/
>>>>
>>>> I think it would be great for OFLB to support this once day, as a
>>>> 'fallback' for browsers without @font-face linking support :-)
>>>
>>> Even better would be to see @font-face supported more widely :D
>>
>> It seems pango is blocking @font-face from Firefox 3.1 on GNU/ 
>> Linux...
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> And WebKitGtk too :(
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>
> -- 
> Khaled Hosny
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> From: Christopher Fynn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 11:33 +0000, Dave Crossland wrote:
>> http://typeface.neocracy.org/
>>
>> I think it would be great for OFLB to support this once day, as a
>> 'fallback' for browsers without @font-face linking support :-)
>
> Languages using complex scripts need proper font linking or embedding.
>
> As far as I can tell these .js fonts are not going to work for complex
> scripts which need to use OpenType lookups or similar to properly
> display Unicode text.
>
> What we need is proper support for @font-face in browsers - not
> something that may provide an excuse not to implement this support.
>
> - Chris
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 14:54:13 +0000
> From: "Dave Crossland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Openfontlibrary] typography.js from
>       http://typeface.neocracy.org/
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> 2008/11/1 Christopher Fynn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>
>> On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 11:33 +0000, Dave Crossland wrote:
>>> http://typeface.neocracy.org/
>>>
>>> I think it would be great for OFLB to support this once day, as a
>>> 'fallback' for browsers without @font-face linking support :-)
>>
>> What we need is proper support for @font-face in browsers - not
>> something that may provide an excuse not to implement this support.
>
> OFLB can help pressure them to do that by offering @font-face CSS
> snippets for the fonts it hosts, and otherwise promoting the
> technology in the text of the site.
>
> Do you think _not_ supporting things like that .js will help speed
> @font-face adoption?
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 22:19:14 +0600
> From: Christopher Fynn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Openfontlibrary] typography.js from
>       http://typeface.neocracy.org/
> Cc: OFLB <openfontlibrary@lists.freedesktop.org>
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> Dave Crossland wrote:
>
>> Do you think _not_ supporting things like that .js will help speed
>> @font-face adoption?
>
> As much as possible, I'd like to see efforts *focused* on getting
> widespread support for @font-face.
>
> As I see it partial solutions can remove some of the pressure for a  
> more
> comprehensive solution.
>
> I'm also not very keen on any font linking and embedding method that
> doesn't support the needs of users of non-latin scripts - and in
> particular the needs  of users of complex (e.g. arabic & indic)  
> scripts.
> IMO, in this day and age, any font architecture which doesn't take
> account of complex scripts is broken.
>
>
> - Chris
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 12:36:12 -0400
> From: "Ed Trager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Openfontlibrary] typography.js from
>       http://typeface.neocracy.org/
> To: OFLB <openfontlibrary@lists.freedesktop.org>
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> I agree with Chris 100%.
>
> When I took a look at the http://typeface.neocracy.org/ project and  
> code, I
> was surprised at all the work they had put in to it.  One problem  
> with this
> approach is that it is so temporary -- as soon as @font-face becomes  
> more
> widely supported, their solution will be largely obsolete.  The  
> other and
> bigger problem, as Chris pointed out, is there is no support for  
> complex
> text layout.  So they have all of this nicely written code with  
> complete
> workarounds for both CANVAS and VML, and perhaps one year from now  
> it will
> remain largely unused.
>
> - Ed
>
> On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 12:19 PM, Christopher Fynn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
> wrote:
>
>> Dave Crossland wrote:
>>
>>> Do you think _not_ supporting things like that .js will help speed
>>> @font-face adoption?
>>
>> As much as possible, I'd like to see efforts *focused* on getting
>> widespread support for @font-face.
>>
>> As I see it partial solutions can remove some of the pressure for a  
>> more
>> comprehensive solution.
>>
>> I'm also not very keen on any font linking and embedding method that
>> doesn't support the needs of users of non-latin scripts - and in
>> particular the needs  of users of complex (e.g. arabic & indic)  
>> scripts.
>> IMO, in this day and age, any font architecture which doesn't take
>> account of complex scripts is broken.
>>
>>
>> - Chris
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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> Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 18:44:24 +0000
> From: Ben Weiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Openfontlibrary] typography.js  from
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> Hi,
>
> Ed Trager wrote:
>> bigger problem, as Chris pointed out, is there is no support for  
>> complex
>> text layout.  So they have all of this nicely written code with  
>> complete
>> workarounds for both CANVAS and VML, and perhaps one year from now  
>> it will
>> remain largely unused.
>>
> Can't wait for that day... and yes, there's a double meaning there ;-)
>
> Ben
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