On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 09:29:16AM +0100, Lubos Kosco wrote:
> 
> OK, so let's do this.
> I have some analytics data on what the user base is using to view opengrok,
> let me clarify some of this, so we all have an understanding who and on 
> what devices (usually with default settings, I only hit 2-3 people which 
> had different than default and could suffer from font/screen-size ratio 
> prob so far - if there are more, scream out loud NOW! :) )
> 
> Most of people use opengrok from (in brackets you have the major versions)
> FF: 54% (3.6.x & 8.x are the biggest ones)
> Chrome 20% ( 15.x and 14.x )
> IE 16% ( 8.0 , 7.0 have both 38% , 6.0 has almost 20% , 9.0 is catching up)
> Safari 4%
> Opera 2.5%
> - the rest is irrelevant (note that android is on 0.16%, but will 
> probably rise)

So it works for min. 87.2% - assuming the unknown 3.3% are crawlers,
it would yield 90.5% - regarding the 80/20 rule, that's good enough. ;-)
Also I think, for the remaining ~9% of "IE very old" (i.e. < version 8)
it is either time to upgrade or to use FF for source code browsing.
Anyway, they should be fixed pretty soon:
http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Microsoft-to-automatically-update-Internet-Explorer-1396919.html

> time for this data is for past 3 years, so it might not reflect current 
> view, but it will not differ that much
> 
> from operating systems we have win XP and win 7 - almost 65%
> then linux and then mac (intel 10.6), rest are irelevant
> 
> screen resolutions:
> 1280x1024 20%
> 1680x1050 13%
> 1440x900 11%
> 1920x1200 9%
> 1920x1080 9%
> 1280x800 8%
> most of people use 24-bit (62%) or 32-bit (34%) colors
> almost 80% of them have flash, 86% have a jre installed
> you can get a decent idea of who is opengroks target audience ...

Really cool those data! :)) However, without correlation to phys. size
(resolution) and bla not that useful for the discussed problem.
  
> I guess if you assume most of people have default font-sizes (though I 
> personally have 125% of dpi :) )

> So what's the sweet spot that will make most of above people happy?

My colleguage check this: On WinXP+ the default proportional Font is
"Times New Roman", monospace = "Courier New". For size IE has symbolic
names only. Since all these settings [knobs]  are (at least for a none-
win/IE user) hard to find, the average user is probably using those
fonts with a "medium" size. Anyway, since one can't change the size wrt.
a single Item, they will always use the same size for "sans-serif" and
"monospace". So no problems wrt. fonts/-size on this plattform.

For FF it is a little bit different: Vlad was right - default size for 
'sans' and 'sans-serif' is 16px, for 'monospace' 12px. So one needs to
blame the FF developers ...

Anyway, looking at the target audience (I assume developers), it
shouldn't be that hard for them, to adjust their font settings to 
suitable values (i.e. same size for both). If they haven't done this
yet, they probably visiting dictator sites only, which decree fonts and
size and thus wouldn't suffer from proper default settings. May be a note
in the "What's new and noteworthy" section should be sufficient.

So my final vote: leave it as is.

Regards,
jel.

PS: Not sure, what Vlad uses for the comparision, but as far as I can
see, the were no explicit, initial font-size settings in 0.10 as well.
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