As long as ignorance is being tolerated (which may not be much longer), I will
reveal another lacuna in my understanding.  If I have a patient who has
wheezing half-way up her lung fields and a dry cough, can I code that using
LOINC?  My suspicion is no, but I don't know.  In HL7, my impression is that I
would simply tag the text, but I don't know about v3, in fact, I don't know.
John Gage

Gunther Schadow wrote:
> 
> "John S. Gage" wrote:
> > Questions born out of ignorance: is HL7 v3 proprietary?  Does one have
> > to license it in some way to use it?  I realize that it doesn't exist at
> > this time, but when it does, will it be proprietary?  If coding in HL7
> > relies CPT codes, does that make part of HL7 (the CPT part) proprietary?
> 
> John,
> 
> no, HL7, like any ANSI standard, is not proprietary. That means
> you can implement and use it without royalties of any kind. Most
> ANSI and ISO standards require you to purchase expensive documents.
> While HL7 does sell docus for good money too, most of the HL7 v3
> specs are in draft state and are not currently sold but free for
> anyone to look at and criticise.  Besides IETF, HL7 maintains one
> of the most open policy of passive and active involvment for
> non-members. You can get involved too. You don't need to have
> any status like affiliation to a company (as in OMG) or official
> charge by a country's SDO, as in CEN or ISO. HL7 members are
> first and foremost humans who contribute their own sense.
> 
> You mention CPT4 codes. Indeed it is a very itchy issue we all have
> with vocabulary producers like AMA (CPT4) and CAP (SNOMED). HL7
> is very sensitive to that, and as it seems, HL7 would never sell
> its constituency to any single expensive vocabulary supplier. So,
> as long as AMA and CAP don't set their code symbols into the
> public domain, they'll have difficulty getting into the HL7
> market. LOINC is the coding system for observation names that
> has become very common in HL7, but LOINC is an open, free coding
> system. So, there are really no worries about any kind of
> proprietary-ness or royalty traps with HL7.
> 
> regards
> -Gunther
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