On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 10:21:18 -0500
Wayne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Kerberos is often dismissed as being too complex to implement, you can 
> decide how much more complex pki must be.

An interesting, and yet very entertaining reading on this is the X.509
Style Guide by Peter Gutmann.  

http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/x509guide.txt

I came across it when a German government funded study showed a very
low level of interoperability among the various S/MIME implementations
out there.  Wondering why this can be considering that the field is
standardized I found this at
http://stud3.tuwien.ac.at/~e0025974/uni/crypto.pdf


 The German BSI (Bundesamt f�ur Sicherheit in der Informationstechnik)
 makes interoperability tests every quarter.  Although everything is
 standardized, it is quite difficult to find a working combination. In
 the last tests (results at http://www.bsi.de/ only 5 out of 12
 products were able to communicate with the others.  How this could
 happen although everything was standardized?  Anyone who has had to
 work with X.509 has probably experienced what can best be described
 as ISO water torture, which involves ploughing through all sorts of
 ISO, ANSI, ITU, and IETF standards, amendments, meeting notes, draft
 standards, committee drafts, working drafts, and other
 work-in-progress documents, some of which are best understood when
 held upside-down in front of a mirror. This has lead to people
 trading hard-to-find object identifiers and ASN.1 definitions like
 baseballcards - "I'll swap you the OID for triple DES in exchange for
 the latest CRL extensions". - Peter Gutmann in his "X.509 Style
 Guide" 

-b

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