Brian,

As the first person to respond to your announcement I have a few questions
and comments:

Where on earth is that island? It sounds great!!

Sloth has prevailed! While I watched with interest the comments,
accusations, conspiracy theories and solutions to the problem of the
disintegrating list and (apparent) failure of auto-re-configuration, I was
saying to myself, "I wonder what REALLY happened?" I also was able avoid the
extra energy and expense of sending anyone money or setting up a server or
even changing subscriptions.

THANK YOU for rescuing the list.

I look forward to more content and less [boring admin]. (Although I salute
those with the energy and passion to TRY to save the list when conventional
wisdom said it was dead.)

Where is everyone else on a fine Saturday morning?

Bruce Slater
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brian Bray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Openhealth List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 7:20 AM
Subject: ANNOUNCEMENT: Openhealth list


> Thanks for the concern about the list and the many ideas about how to
> improve it.
>
> As you are aware, the moderator of the list, Dave Scott, passed away in
> July. Minoru as a company and myself personally are still recovering
> from this loss. I took on the administration of the Openhealth list at
> his death.
>
> I went on vacation in late December to an island in the indian ocean and
> I admit that I didn't even take my laptop! I also suffered a serious
> hard disk failure after my return and the backlog of e-mail messages
> (more than 50,000) has overloaded the automation that I had in place to
> manage my inbox. Spam is a serious problem that, in my opinion, now
> requires legislative solutions to protect our rights to association.
>
> So, I have not yet read the openhealth list or seen the administrative
> requests made since December 20th. From a quick look at the archives,
> and from some telephone conversations with list members, it seems that
> this has inconvenienced some people, and for this I apologise. While it
> would be tempting to say that this lapse in service is just temporary,
> the truth is that running the list does not fit well with my other
> responsibilities at Minoru, with my personality, or with my career
> goals. It's time for me to move on and step aside.
>
> I am pleased to announce that Bud Bruegger has agreed to manage the
> Openhealth list on behalf of Minoru starting next week. Bud has a long
> history of collaboration and work in open source health care. He is one
> of the founders of OSHCA and the author of the OSHCA charter. He is a
> partner in the Spirit project http://www.euspirit.org and has great
> experience in community building. I feel he can make valuable
> contributions to the dynamics of the group.
>
> I'd like to respond to some specific comments from previous messages and
> that people have relayed to me by phone:
>
> The first is about Minoru's commitment to the list. The Minoru business
> plan is to distribute integrated health care software products based on
> open source technology. We realised very early that we needed to nuture
> the creation of mature software and encourage collaboration among those
> interested. "Openhealth" is the brand name for those products and the
> list was created to provide a forum for the exchange of information
> between the potential customers and potential producers of this
> technology which we see as being one and the same group. As long as this
> remains our business plan, the Openhealth forum will be open for anyone
> interested to communicate. The Openhealth name is trademark of our
company.
>
> The second is about this concept of "replacing the list". Of course,
> anyone is free to create another list (with a different name) to discuss
> whatever topics they want. Every development project, every company in
> our little industry, and every organisation (OSHCA, IMIA working group,
> AMIA working group, etc.) has their own list(s). We would welcome
> announcements of related lists and initiatives, but not advertising for
> them, ongoing solicitation for membership, or statements that
> incorrectly imply Minoru or Openhealth endorsement.
>
> Thirdy, there seem to be two types of suggestions for the list:
> extending the list with services to make it more accessible to a broader
> audience, and increasing participation in the administration and control
> of the list.
>
> These concerns are exactly the motivation and opportunities of the
> Spirit site http://www.euspirit.org/ . There is a kind of "Spirit
> community" of persons interested in open source health care but not at
> the detailed technical level of openhealth list discussions.
> The Spirit site offers, today, many of the services such as improved
> list software and Wiki's that have been discussed. Spirit is supported
> by a consortium of partners and is therefor not dependent on a single
> company. We would welcome additional participation in the ongoing
> development of the spirit site through new consortium members, or simply
> by volunteers. I know that Bud, our new list manager wants to more
> closely integrate the openhealth list with this Spirit community and
> that the technology is already in place to do this.
>
> Finally, there were some comments about the transparency of the list
> management. In fact, we have published detailed statistics about the
> openhealth list and about other resources for the open source health
> care community. These documents are available at
> http://www.euspirit.org/en/deliverables.php .  The Measurement and
> Evaluation Reports (D6v1-4) contain information on the number of
> members, number of active participants, and number of messages, etc. The
> End of Project Survey (D11) measures the impact that we, as a community,
> have had on the marketplace in Europe.
>
> I thank all of you for your patience during the last few weeks, and YES,
> we will get caught up on the administrative requests soon.
>
> All for now.
>
> -Brian
> -- 
> Brian Bray
> Minoru Development Corporation; Minoru Development SARL
> The home of Openhealth(tm): http://www.openhealth.com
>
> 3, rue du Colonel Moll, 75017 Paris France
> +33.6.8750.2465
>
>
>


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