For some reason, it appears that a support.microsoft.com URL was
"censored" and did not reach Tim. Here it is again (repeated 3x):

1.
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=http://support.microsoft.com:80/support/kb/articles/Q306/8/19.ASP

2.
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=http://support.microsoft.com:80/support/kb/articles/Q306/8/19.ASP

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http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=http://support.microsoft.com:80/support/kb/articles/Q306/8/19.ASP


On Mon, 23 Feb 2004, Andrew Ho wrote:

> On Mon, 24 Feb 2004, Tim Churches wrote:
> ...
> > matter of pure practicality - in order to undertake really complex
> > projects, you need a team of people who can immerse themselves in the
> > project,
> ...
>
> Tim,
>   There is no debate that people are needed. However, how the team come
> together and operate are quite different between free and non-free
> projects.
>
> ...
> > > For example, both IBM and Microsoft are already open-source software
> > > providers.
> >
> > Microsoft?
>
> Microsoft provides open-source software through Windows XP, for example:
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=http://support.microsoft.com:80/support/kb/articles/Q306/8/19.ASP
>
> ...
> > > There is no permanent division between "they" and "us". We are all trying
> > > to solve real world problems. Alliances and relationships will change over
> > > time. If Oracle employees know better how to deal with certain tasks, then
> > > they should do that part of the project.
> >
> > Quite so, and that's why implementations of an open source hospital
> > system may still costs a substantial slice of that $450 million, because
> > those Oracle people generally don't work on a volunteer basis.
>
> Most of us do not work substantially on a volunteer (= not financially
> compensated) basis either.
>
> This confusion between free/open-source methodology and "volunteerism" is
> quite misleading and counter-productive. Unfortunately, many free software
> developers are reluctant to refute this error. It is rather difficult to
> expend effort insisting that you are not making a "donation" when you
> contribute code to a free software project.
>
> Free/open-source solutions offer lower "Total Cost of Ownership" _NOT_
> because free software developers perform work for no pay. Instead, free
> (as in speech) solutions are less costly because
>   1) less need for lawyers
>   2) better communication between developers and users
>   3) more code re-use
>   4) easier to support and maintain
>   5) potentially larger market penetration
>
> Best regards,
>
> Andrew
> ---
> Andrew P. Ho, M.D.
> OIO: Open Infrastructure for Outcomes
> www.TxOutcome.Org
>

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