Andrew Ho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> For some reason, it appears that a support.microsoft.com URL was
> "censored" and did not reach Tim. Here it is again (repeated 3x):
> 
> 1.
> 
> 2.
> 
> 3.
> 

Ah hah! The URLs have been mysteriously moved to the bottom of your 
message - see below. I had a quick look at the firt of thoose URLs and it is not 
immediately apparent what its relevance is, but I don't have time to read it right 
through. Can you give us some hints?

Tim C

> 
> On Mon, 23 Feb 2004, Andrew Ho wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 24 Feb 2004, Tim Churches wrote:
> > ...
> > > matter of pure practicality - in order to undertake really
> complex
> > > projects, you need a team of people who can immerse themselves in
> the
> > > project,
> > ...
> >
> > Tim,
> >   There is no debate that people are needed. However, how the team
> come
> > together and operate are quite different between free and non-free
> > projects.
> >
> > ...
> > > > For example, both IBM and Microsoft are already open-source
> software
> > > > providers.
> > >
> > > Microsoft?
> >
> > Microsoft provides open-source software through Windows XP, for
> example:
> >
> >
> > ...
> > > > There is no permanent division between "they" and "us". We are
> all trying
> > > > to solve real world problems. Alliances and relationships will
> change over
> > > > time. If Oracle employees know better how to deal with certain
> tasks, then
> > > > they should do that part of the project.
> > >
> > > Quite so, and that's why implementations of an open source
> hospital
> > > system may still costs a substantial slice of that $450 million,
> because
> > > those Oracle people generally don't work on a volunteer basis.
> >
> > Most of us do not work substantially on a volunteer (= not
> financially
> > compensated) basis either.
> >
> > This confusion between free/open-source methodology and
> "volunteerism" is
> > quite misleading and counter-productive. Unfortunately, many free
> software
> > developers are reluctant to refute this error. It is rather
> difficult to
> > expend effort insisting that you are not making a "donation" when
> you
> > contribute code to a free software project.
> >
> > Free/open-source solutions offer lower "Total Cost of Ownership"
> _NOT_
> > because free software developers perform work for no pay. Instead,
> free
> > (as in speech) solutions are less costly because
> >   1) less need for lawyers
> >   2) better communication between developers and users
> >   3) more code re-use
> >   4) easier to support and maintain
> >   5) potentially larger market penetration
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Andrew
> > ---
> > Andrew P. Ho, M.D.
> > OIO: Open Infrastructure for Outcomes
> > www.TxOutcome.Org
> >
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