Joseph, I'm really at a loss as to how to help you with this negative attitude towards AMIA. You are correct in that we do not have a proactive advertising plan. But, AMIA OSWG members do regularly post regarding their efforts to the openhealth list.
Do you have any positive suggestions for the AMIA OSWG? I can assure you that when there is formal results from any AMIA OSWG activity it will be widely shared. Thanks, Tim ----- Original Message ----- From: Joseph Dal Molin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tuesday, August 3, 2004 9:26 am Subject: Re: [open_source_task_force] Email list active > I would not have joined the task force list had I known AMIA's > intentions were to create a closed forum after openly inviting > people to > participate in a task force which in some way contributed to this > outcome. > Standing on the outside it appears that AMIA is flying the open > source > banner to attract membership in a manner which is divisive to the > global > community...and works against the need for broader more serious > collaboration. The fact that your working group has no proactive > mechanism to communicate externally reinforces this. > > Joseph > > > > > Tim Cook wrote: > > On Tue, 2004-08-03 at 06:23, Joseph Dal Molin wrote: > > > >>Tim, > >> > >>How did I manage to be included on this list when the AMIA list > is > >>closed to non-AMIA members. > > > > > > The Task Force List which you are on was opened to everyone > during it's > > inception as an exploratory phase. I was not a member of the > AMIA task > > force but joined just as you did as an AMIA non-member. Though > this list > > is not in regular use I suppose it is an open source mailing list > that> is open to the public sponsored by AMIA. But I will also say > that it is > > obviously not needed since there is no regular posting on it by AMIA > > members or non-members. As stated before, the openhealth list > provides> that service already. > > > > > >>..which is BTW rather ironic given the focus of the working > group? > > > > > > Not really. The Working Group is for AMIA members only. The > mailing> list is the communications channel for that WG. Just > because the WG > > supports and promotes open source in healthcare does not mean > that it > > must also open it's membership and/or mailing list to the public. > This > > is not any different from the OSHCA membership and mailing list > being> closed to those that did not subscribe to and abide by the > Charter. It > > is simply an AMIA membership requirement to pay the fees as > appropriate.> > > > >>Will the AMIA group ever communicate publically about its activities > > > > > > Many of the members do communicate publicly about their > activities now. > > I will leave it up to them to disclose their association with > AMIA. As > > a WG we do communicate within AMIA to the broader membership > regarding> the WG activities. This is one of the primary goals of > the WG. The > > other goals are to build communication bridges to the broader health > > informatics communities and to the open source communities. The > WG isn't > > mandated to support any specific projects but will pursue studies > and> other efforts that produce information regarding the benefits > of using > > open source in healthcare. These will all be public. > > > > > >> or is it the "Dead Sea Scroll Society" of open source in health? > > > > > > <vbs> and I thought you knew me better than that. > > > > > > The OSWG is relatively new and MedInfo2004 > > (http://www.medinfo2004.org)is the official "Inaugural > Presentation". > > There will also be a combined business meeting with the IMIA OSWG at > > MedInfo. See the LinuxMedNews report from > > April:http://www.linuxmednews.com/linuxmednews/1081765485/index_html > > > > I hope to see you all there. It would be great to see more of the > > openhealth list members join AMIA and the OSWG. > > > > Cheers, > > > >
