Indeed, the fact that OSCHA continues to promote PrimaCare despite it not being either Open Source or Libre Software is a serious problem.
I am sympathetic to your need to make an organization work, and would probably not have complained about some of the other things that Tim has mentioned, but continuing to mention Primacare in the same breath as OpenMRS is complete violation on your role within OSCHA. Your last justification on this list was that essentially your role as a leader in OSCHA was not in conflict with your role with Primacare. You held "As for my role in OSHCA and other organisations, I wish to have the liberty to advocate beyond supporting and promoting open source softwares." However, you are now doing exactly what we were concerned about, using OSCHA as a platform for advocating a proprietary application. I have never heard of IOSN before but I already like them, the introduction page to there conference states: "An appreciation of what open source software might offer health informatics is gradually developing. The fact that the software is free is plainly a major attraction. " In short this organization is supporting FOSS, they used both the terms "free" and open source in a reasonable manner. Molly *in her role as a representative of OSCHA* is promoting Primacare to this organization as open source software, see the quote below. >> > (e.g. CHITS) a disaster management system (like SAHANA), a primary >> > care ehr system (like OpenMRS, PrimaCare), open source HL7 enabling >> > system like the MIRTH project etc. This needs be corrected. Here are Molly's options as I see them. 1. Resign from any leadership role in OSCHA 2. Release Primacare under an approved FOSS license 3. Publish a webpage on all of the Primacare sites clarifying that it "uses a FOSS stack" but it is not Open Source or "Free/Libre" software. Otherwise, I will be forced to publish something to the effect of #3 myself. This is not an academic question. Here is a link to the Primacare license: http://202.9.99.46:84/en/license.html Representing this as a license that respects freedom, to those who are interested in this issue of freedom respecting software in medicine is simple deception. For the record, here is a copy of the text of the license in question. User License Agreement for PrimaCare 4 IMPORTANT & "READ CAREFULLY: This End-User License Agreement ("EULA") is a legal agreement between you (either an individual or a single entity) and PCDOM . for the PCDOM PrimaCare Software that accompanies this EULA, which includes any associated files and Internet-based services. BY USING THIS SOFTWARE, YOU AGREE TO BE BOUND BY THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF THIS EULA. 1. GRANT OF LICENSE. This license is a non-transferable, limited use of the software which governs the legal use of PCDOM PrimaCare (funded by DAGS) in the clinic premises of the licensed user only. 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