I am extremely happy to see Don's response to the problems outlined in this thread.
Definitely some support from the OIDF is needed to get Europe on track.

Don:
Prague in late April seems fine from a climatic point of view, but I am not sure that an OpenID seminar or workshop should be an integral part of the Catalyst Conference. I think the matters prospective large RP's want to have resolved before kick-off are much more basic business issues: "Whats in it for me?", "How will it impact my existing userbase", "Did anyone else do it with success ($$)?", and in some cases "Is it secure?" They need a cookbook rather than a palette of 100 options, which is why I think is is important to have the UI and AX specs settled asap. It is also a question of whether the location(s) should rather be selected based on the concentration of potential RP's. Maybe now is a good time to start gauging the interest in various countries.

Santosh:
As soon as you take OpenID to assurance levels higher than 0, we have common legislative issues and industry associations within Europe that makes a coordinated effort feasible in some respects. Whether or not a separate organization is mandated or not should be resolved as part of the work proposed by Don. In general an organization has a purpose if it facilitates the work that needs to be done rather than getting in the way of it (btw. thats why OpenID-DK is organized as a network rather than a legal entity).

=henrik


Santosh Rajan skrev:
PS: Please don't argue about "politics" and "DNS". OpenID should be independant of DNS. here are some examples. 1) My OpenID http://santosh.in
2) somebody elses OpenID http://example.jp
3) another example http://example.com/joe
In all the cases above you can see that we are politically independent yet technologically exactly the same.

On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 8:28 PM, Santosh Rajan <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Hi Don,
    I think you have missed the point entirely. Let me quote our
    european colleagues. " was also wondering whether it would be more
    appropriate to have one single consolidated foundation".

Right! Lets think in terms of one single consolidated foundation.
    So what have you got to say about that?

    Now let me add my personal views to this. Living in an
    increasingly globalized world, something so universal like
    "identity", should be globalized and made "one".

    Instead of breaking up OpenID into cultural, geographic and
    language boundaries, we should be working towards unifying OpenID
    into one universal Identity.

    I think it is ridiculous to think of OpenID europe, or OpenID
Japan or OpenID India or whatever you want to call it. Thanks Santosh

    On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 7:21 PM, Don Thibeau (OIDF ED)
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        The OpenID Foundation has much work to do in Europe in 2010.

        I hope the board elections underway will increase our
        representation,
        resources and expertise on several fronts WRT OpenID EU.
        I plan to propose a 2010 OpenID Foundation EU committee to:
        1. Review the analysis underway of our trademarks and brands
        2. Discuss EU membership outreach and organization
        3. Review EU budget plans and priorities.

        With that new committee's help and that of Henrik, Snorri and
        others, I plan
        to propose the 2010 board sponsor a "OpenID Summit Europe" to
        occur around
        the Burton Catalyst Europe, April 19-22 in Prague.  I have
        been invited to
        speak at that conference http://www.catalyst.burtongroup.com/eu10/

        Don Thibeau
        [email protected]
        Executive Director
        The OpenID Foundation
        http://openid.net

        -----Original Message-----
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        <mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of
        Henrik Biering
        Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 6:07 PM
        To: Snorri Giorgetti
        Cc: [email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>;
        [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
        Subject: [OpenID board] Status of the OpenID Foundation Europe

        Hi Snorri,
        how are you doing? I have not heard anything from you for
        quite a long time.

        Yesterday, I discovered that the openid.dk <http://openid.dk>
        domain registered by OpenID
        foundation Europe had expired and had been deactivated.
        I have now managed to pay the invoice and get the domain
        reactivated.

        However, I wonder about the situation of OpenID Europe
        Foundation in
        general. You have done an impressive job of aquiring the
        European and
        National Trademarks for OpenID as well as several national OpenID
        domains on behalf of the EU foundation, and it would be sad to
        see the
        result of these efforts vanish.

        If there are no resources available to maintain OpenID Foundation
        Europe, maybe it is appropriate to consider how this IPR may be
        consolidated within the global OpenID Foundation (or
        alternatively at
        the national levels).

        Best Regards,
        Henrik Biering
        OpenID-DK representative

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