Sorry Pam, I thought it was open to anyone.  John Ehrig, who has administrative 
ownership of the wiki?

Cheers,

Brian
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From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pam Dingle
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 6:57 PM
To: [email protected]
Cc: OpenID Board (public)
Subject: Re: [OpenID board] Email listservs

It would be easier for the motivated people to add themselves to the list 
memberships and contribute to the wiki if the owner of the workspace would 
graciously approve outstanding access requests pretty please whoever you are...


On 2010-01-29, at 7:51 PM, Brian Kissel wrote:


Great observations and questions John.  I certainly don't have all the answers 
either, but here's a suggestion and look forward to feedback from others.

We should have dedicated mailing lists for each of the Committees as listed on 
https://openid.pbworks.com/Committees   People should only volunteer to be on 
those committees if they are really willing to put in some effort, not just 
passively monitor a listserv and voice an opinion occasionally.  The folks who 
are officially on the committee would then also be on the dedicated committee 
mailing list.

Each committee can determine what unrestricted mailing lists they would also 
like to use to solicit input and feedback from the overall community.  For 
example, if the Adoption Committee wants to use an unrestricted User Experience 
mailing list to get lots of market feedback on UX, that committee chair should 
set up and manage that list.

If we want our committees to assume more leadership and responsibility for 
their respective areas, I think they should be limited in size, probably to no 
more than 10 or 15 members each.  But the unrestricted lists could have 
hundreds or thousands of participants (if we can be so lucky).

With respect to getting each of the committees organized with a well defined 
list of members and the chair/vice chair, I think motivated people like 
yourself should take the lead and make a proposal for the group(s) you are 
interested in being on and potentially serving in a chair/vice chair capacity.

We have done that with the Adoption 
Committee<https://openid.pbworks.com/Adoption-Committee> and should have 
finalized our initial membership and leadership by Monday.  Once the core group 
and leadership is defined, others may offer to join or the group may want to 
proactively recruit specific members whose participation they think would be 
beneficial.  We can always iterate from that starting point.  So, I would 
support your approach of declaring yourself Chair pro tem of a committee you're 
interested in and organize an election to replace yourself.  If no one else 
shows up, it's yours ;-)

There are a list of potential members and chair/vice-chairs for each committee 
at https://openid.pbworks.com/Committees  so I'd recommend that everyone who is 
on one of those lists exert some leadership if you want to have that role going 
forward, as John is advocating below.

Cheers,

Brian
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From: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
 [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Bradley
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 6:21 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Cc: OpenID Board (public)
Subject: Re: [OpenID board] Email listservs

Brian,

I thought that David was the keeper of the lists.

I don't have any plan to move them, though would help with that if the board 
makes that decision.

I observed that there are existing lists like Legal and security that could be 
used to get things started, and moved if needed.

I joined Legal and discovered that there are over 140 members of the list.

On the upside the business of the committee would not be secret.

I can take the lead on getting one of the committees going to elect co-chairs.

However if as you indicated the Committee elects its own chairs, and any 
committee member can run,  I am not certain that the outcome of having board 
members as chairs is necessarily the likely outcome.

I am assuming that the committees are not WG and don't have IPR rules.

So anyone who joins the list is a member?

I recall that when the Security list was set up originally, Tony was appointed 
chair so there was no real election process.
The list never saw much use.

If these are real committees and not just random comment email lists we 
probably need some basic guidelines on the rules for board committees.

There seems to be some inertia to getting started.

I am one of the new people on the board,  I don't have a good feel for how 
committees functioned or not with previous boards.

I am tempted to pick a committee declare myself Chair pro tem and organize an 
election to replace myself.

This process seems to have stalled for the last week.

John B.

On 2010-01-29, at 10:57 PM, Brian Kissel wrote:



Hi John,

What did you resolve for managing mailing lists going forward?  Are you 
advocating moving to Google lists, something else, or staying with what we have 
today.  In any case, Global Inventures and the Executive Director should have 
administrative access to all mailing lists for the benefit of continuity.

>From the mailing lists we have right now...

board<http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-board>

[no description available]

Code<http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-code>

[no description available]

eu<http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-eu>

General OpenID discussions relating to Europe

general<http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-general>

OpenID General Discussion

legal<http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-legal>

Legal discussion around OpenID

marketing<http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-marketing>

OpenID marketing

security<http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-security>

Discussion around security and anti-phishing tactics

specs<http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-specs>

OpenID Specifications Discussions

specs-council<http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-specs-council>

Specifications Council

Specs-cx<http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-specs-cx>

Contract Exchange for dynamic exchange of legal contract among the parties.

specs-pape<http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-specs-pape>

PAPE specification mailing list

Specs-ui<http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-specs-ui>

User Interface Working Group Specs list

user-experience<http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-user-experience>

OpenID user experience


I'd like to see us have the following to start.  We can add/delete/modify as 
necessary as the Committees come up to speed and determine what their 
respective needs are.

*         Board
*         Board Private
*         Executive Committee (new)
*         General
*         Adoption (if we can migrate the Marketing and User Experience lists 
over to this list, that would be great, if not we'll just let sit dormant 
unless/until the Adoption Committee requests them)
*         Government (new)
*         Security
*         Technology (new)
*         Legal
*         International Outreach (new)
*         Certification (new)

Are people actively using EU?  If so, we should roll that into International 
Outreach unless the International Outreach Committee wants to keep this 
separate list.

Will leave it to the Technical Committee to determine what lists they want 
(specs, specs-council, specs-cx, etc.)

Cheers,

Brian
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