April 4, 2018 OpenID Board Meeting Minutes

Present:
Don Thibeau, Executive Director
Brian Berliner
Adam Dawes
John Bradley
George Fletcher
Tony Nadalin
Sarah Squire
Mike Jones

Present on the Phone:
Nat Sakimura
Bjorn Hjelm
Ashish Jain

Absent:
Prateek Mishra
Tushar Pradhan
Masato Obata

Visitors on the Phone:
Tom Smedinghoff, Locke Lord LLP
Mike Leszcz, OIDF


1.       Liaison Update
Dave Tonge will be our liaison to ISO/TC 68/SC 9 - Information exchange for 
financial services.  They will have a meeting May 14th in Zurich.  We are 
establishing a liaison relationship with ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 27/WG 5 - Identity 
management and privacy technologies.


2.       RISC Update
Adam reported that the RISC working group plans to request an Implementer's 
Draft vote for the current RISC spec.  RISC will have a face-to-face meeting 
this week.


3.       Certification Update
Mike reported that the OpenID Certification program won the Identity Innovation 
Award last week at the IDnext conference.  See 
https://openid.net/2018/03/29/openid-certification-program-wins-2018-identity-innovation-award/.

Mike reported that Hans Zandbelt is fortunately recovering from his auto 
accident and is now able to do some work on the certification program.

Mike said that he needs to review the Form Post Response Mode tests before 
adding the new profiles for those "testing the tests".

There may be an option to have college students being mentored by VMware 
employees do some enhancements to the certification code.  One good project 
would be adding certificate-based authentication and an option to require 
signed requests so that Open Banking deployments could be tested with the 
certification test tool.

We discussed the status of the Open Banking/FAPI test suite that has been 
produced by FinTech Labs and its contractors.  While OIBE's intent is to hand 
over that effort to the OpenID Foundation, there currently aren't any financial 
or people resources allocated for maintaining and operating the test suite.  
Don is working with them to clarify their intent and develop a plan that works 
for everyone.  George pointed out that it would be odd for us to operate a test 
suite for specs that aren't OpenID specs.  It may be possible to eventually use 
it to test either Open Banking or FAPI conformance.  We discussed the 
possibility of charging significantly more for Open Banking certifications than 
the current certifications - possibly enough to actually cover our costs.

Mike reviewed some of the conclusions from Hans Zandbelt's report on the Open 
Banking test suite.  He noted that much of the functionality in the OpenID 
Certification test suite is missing in the Open Banking test suite and there 
are no plans to add it.  For instance, of the 6 defined response_type values, 
only one (code) is supported.  We agreed that it would be good to add 
functionality to the OpenID Certification test suite so that Open Banking 
deployments can run it - in addition to the Open Banking specific test suite.


4.       Women in Identity
Microsoft has provided directed funding to the Women in Identity effort through 
OIX.


5.       Board Meetings at IIW
George suggested that we try to schedule future board meetings at IIW at times 
that have less impact on the workshop.  Thursday afternoon or late Monday 
afternoon seem like good options.  Don will plan to have the next one after the 
Monday workshop at VMware.


6.       New RP Libraries
Adam described a Google-funded project to build new RP libraries with better 
support for JWTs and security best practices.  They are working on Python, 
Java, and JavaScript implementations.  They are building on the open source 
Auth0 libraries for Java and JavaScript and Roland Hedberg is doing a new 
Python library.  Adam would like them to be owned by the foundation in the same 
way that the AppAuth libraries are.  Tony was supportive of that.  Adam hopes 
that Auth0 will accept the changes made by the foundation into their code.  We 
will have to work out change management for all the libraries.  George said 
that we are taking on SLA responsibilities to, for instance, fix critical 
vulnerabilities in a timely fashion.  Adam believes that because the libraries 
will be used in production, there will be resources to maintain them.


7.       Renaming FAPI
Tony stated that the FAPI name is causing confusion in the marketplace.  Tony 
is suggesting that both the working group and the specifications be renamed.  
John reported that some Polish planners have been confused into thinking that 
they couldn't have their own API and use FAPI for their PSD2 work.  Mike asked 
if the spec abstracts provide good descriptions from which we could derive good 
names.  (They didn't.)

We should also change the scope to make it not specific to financial data.  It 
should capture that it's for high-value, high-security transactions.  John said 
that that some aspects of the specs currently are financial.  We could break 
those aspects out into a separate financial profile.

Tony agreed to work with Nat and Sarah on new names.


8.       Upcoming Events and Member Recruitment
Members are encouraged to talk with organizations that are depending upon 
OpenID Specifications but that are not currently members about re-engaging with 
the foundation.  This can be done at upcoming events.  Tony said that it's also 
important for those doing implementations to engage, in part so that what they 
are building is interoperable.

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